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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Inspired by the Sword of Ottoman Sultan Mehmet ll, by Vince         Reply with quote

Vince posted a pic on his latest projects album which shows him holding a sword he's building, inspired by an original piece, based on the sword of Ottoman Sultan Mehmet ll (residing at the Topkapi Saray Museum: 1/90) known to be one of the finest examples of 15th century Turkish made swords. *The original has an overall length of 126.5 cm, with a blade length of 106 cm
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Edit: - Vince removed the pic I'd mentioned on his album but added these two in-progess shots.

In Progress -- the Sword of Mehmet II
This sword is inspired by the sword of Mehmet II. A few changes were made by request of the owner. Blade Length 41-3/4", OAL 54". Pattern welded steel, Ivory grip, steel mounts with silver and gold inlay.



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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very cool!
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love middle-eastern swords of that pattern and this one looks to be another Evans masterpiece.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What a great design. That grip is fantastic!
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It looks gorgeous Big Grin
I have a friend with a similar sword and it's unbelievably well balanced, it's better balanced one handed than a lot of the one handed swords I've used! It can also deliver a powerful blow with two hands.

I also really like the second fuller along the back of the blade.

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The original that inspired Vince ...... from the book "Islamic Swords and Swordsmiths"

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some in-progress shots.

1.) The damascus billet
2.) Vince forging out the blade
3.) Vince gives us a sense of scale ( Mr. Evans is 5' 10")

Last I spoke to him he was working on the inlay for the guard !

It's gonna be a real beauty, Mac



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PostPosted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I like. I like a LOT. Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas McDonald wrote:
Some in-progress shots.

1.) The damascus billet
2.) Vince forging out the blade
3.) Vince gives us a sense of scale ( Mr. Evans is 5' 10")

Last I spoke to him he was working on the inlay for the guard !

It's gonna be a real beauty, Mac

Thanks for posting the progress shots, Mac. The photos brought back to me that feeling of amazement - How is it that any person can start with a lump of metal, and manipulate it into such a beautiful work of art. Vince clearly has a gift from God.

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Your very welcome, Steve, my pleasure !

Steve Grisetti wrote:
Vince clearly has a gift from God.


Amen, Mac

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Manoucher, over on SFI, had requested a few shots of this blades pattern welding and Vince kindly sent me these photos today !
He wrote: "It's just a random pattern on the blade. I made 2 billets, 256 layers each, then welded them together to make 512 for the final blade."

Awesome looking, 'eh, Mac








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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Amazed in two ways: The first pic was amazing due to the aesthetics ! With the picture of Vince holding it in his hands I was also amazed by the size/scale of this sword. Eek! Cool

Words fail me. Wink Laughing Out Loud

( Edited: Holy crap ! The close-ups of the blade ! Lets add a third way I'm falling off my chair and drooling on my keyboard ! Cool )

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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: patterns         Reply with quote

beautiful patterns. Would the original have been pattern welded or would the dmascus have been arrived at by the reheating/migration/impurities (no idea of the correct terminology) method?
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: patterns         Reply with quote

Geoff Wood wrote:
beautiful patterns. Would the original have been pattern welded or would the dmascus have been arrived at by the reheating/migration/impurities (no idea of the correct terminology) method?


It's more than likely that the original, upon which this sword is based, is manufactured from wootz steel. Many consider wootz to be the true "damascus" steel, not european-based pattern welding. This is a theory I happen to agree with. Wootz is a crucible steel that is manufactured in a different fashion than pattern welding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel

Detail of a wootz blade from a kurdish dagger, cut down from a Persian shamshir:
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well for cryin' out loud, somebody give that man some wootz to work with!
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeff Pringle wrote:
Well for cryin' out loud, somebody give that man some wootz to work with!
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I think he's doing pretty good without it. Big Grin

This looks like it will be a very interesting sword.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Quote:
I think he's doing pretty good without it.

Of course, that's what I meant - Beautiful work, imagine what he could do with some wootz....
This thread is kinda funny (to me), though, 'cause I recently finished forging out a blade (in wootz-ish steel) inspired by the same early Ottoman blade shape - and I can say, there's no one I'd rather be trumped/scooped by than Mr. Vince Evans.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice piece Vince.

Hello All,
Doing a blade this long is not a simple thing; add to this the pattern-welding and the fullers and you are really pushing the envelope. Not many today could do this work and only one has.

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Jeff Pringle wrote:
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I think he's doing pretty good without it.

Of course, that's what I meant - Beautiful work, imagine what he could do with some wootz....
This thread is kinda funny (to me), though, 'cause I recently finished forging out a blade (in wootz-ish steel) inspired by the same early Ottoman blade shape - and I can say, there's no one I'd rather be trumped/scooped by than Mr. Vince Evans.
Happy


Jeff,
I don't mean to rub salt, but you got trumped on the wootz as well.
I forged this one a few years ago.

I think this blade strikes a cord in bladesmiths.

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Aug, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, you've been ahead of me on the whole wootz thing all along, Ric -
Let me rephrase that - there are no two people I'd rather be trumped by than Mr. Evans & Mr. Furrer.
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