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Thomas McDonald
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 Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: Inspired by the Sword of Ottoman Sultan Mehmet ll, by Vince |
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Vince posted a pic on his latest projects album which shows him holding a sword he's building, inspired by an original piece, based on the sword of Ottoman Sultan Mehmet ll (residing at the Topkapi Saray Museum: 1/90) known to be one of the finest examples of 15th century Turkish made swords. *The original has an overall length of 126.5 cm, with a blade length of 106 cm
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=99...uid=550150
Mac
Edit: - Vince removed the pic I'd mentioned on his album but added these two in-progess shots.
In Progress -- the Sword of Mehmet II
This sword is inspired by the sword of Mehmet II. A few changes were made by request of the owner. Blade Length 41-3/4", OAL 54". Pattern welded steel, Ivory grip, steel mounts with silver and gold inlay.
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Steve Grisetti
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Very cool!
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I love middle-eastern swords of that pattern and this one looks to be another Evans masterpiece.
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Matt Phillips
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What a great design. That grip is fantastic!
Matt
"Mine honour is my life; both grow in one; take honour from me and my life is done." William Shakespear
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Phill Lappin
Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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It looks gorgeous 
I have a friend with a similar sword and it's unbelievably well balanced, it's better balanced one handed than a lot of the one handed swords I've used! It can also deliver a powerful blow with two hands.
I also really like the second fuller along the back of the blade.
IN NOMINE DOMINE
IN NOMINE CONVIVOR
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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The original that inspired Vince ...... from the book "Islamic Swords and Swordsmiths"
Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Some in-progress shots.
1.) The damascus billet
2.) Vince forging out the blade
3.) Vince gives us a sense of scale ( Mr. Evans is 5' 10")
Last I spoke to him he was working on the inlay for the guard !
It's gonna be a real beauty, Mac
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Addison C. de Lisle
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| Posted: Fri 04 Aug, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I like. I like a LOT. Congratulations!
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Thomas McDonald wrote: | Some in-progress shots.
1.) The damascus billet
2.) Vince forging out the blade
3.) Vince gives us a sense of scale ( Mr. Evans is 5' 10")
Last I spoke to him he was working on the inlay for the guard !
It's gonna be a real beauty, Mac |
Thanks for posting the progress shots, Mac. The photos brought back to me that feeling of amazement - How is it that any person can start with a lump of metal, and manipulate it into such a beautiful work of art. Vince clearly has a gift from God.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Your very welcome, Steve, my pleasure !
| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Vince clearly has a gift from God. |
Amen, Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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Manoucher, over on SFI, had requested a few shots of this blades pattern welding and Vince kindly sent me these photos today !
He wrote: "It's just a random pattern on the blade. I made 2 billets, 256 layers each, then welded them together to make 512 for the final blade."
Awesome looking, 'eh, Mac
'Gott Bewahr Die Oprechte Schotten'
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Jean Thibodeau
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Amazed in two ways: The first pic was amazing due to the aesthetics ! With the picture of Vince holding it in his hands I was also amazed by the size/scale of this sword.  
Words fail me.  
( Edited: Holy crap ! The close-ups of the blade ! Lets add a third way I'm falling off my chair and drooling on my keyboard ! )
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Geoff Wood
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: patterns |
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beautiful patterns. Would the original have been pattern welded or would the dmascus have been arrived at by the reheating/migration/impurities (no idea of the correct terminology) method?
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: patterns |
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| Geoff Wood wrote: | | beautiful patterns. Would the original have been pattern welded or would the dmascus have been arrived at by the reheating/migration/impurities (no idea of the correct terminology) method? |
It's more than likely that the original, upon which this sword is based, is manufactured from wootz steel. Many consider wootz to be the true "damascus" steel, not european-based pattern welding. This is a theory I happen to agree with. Wootz is a crucible steel that is manufactured in a different fashion than pattern welding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel
Detail of a wootz blade from a kurdish dagger, cut down from a Persian shamshir:
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Jeff Pringle
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well for cryin' out loud, somebody give that man some wootz to work with!
Nice Sword!
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeff Pringle wrote: | Well for cryin' out loud, somebody give that man some wootz to work with!
Nice Sword! |
I think he's doing pretty good without it.
This looks like it will be a very interesting sword.
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Jeff Pringle
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| Quote: | | I think he's doing pretty good without it. |
Of course, that's what I meant - Beautiful work, imagine what he could do with some wootz....
This thread is kinda funny (to me), though, 'cause I recently finished forging out a blade (in wootz-ish steel) inspired by the same early Ottoman blade shape - and I can say, there's no one I'd rather be trumped/scooped by than Mr. Vince Evans.
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Richard Furrer
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| Posted: Sat 05 Aug, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice piece Vince.
Hello All,
Doing a blade this long is not a simple thing; add to this the pattern-welding and the fullers and you are really pushing the envelope. Not many today could do this work and only one has.
Ric
Ric Furrer
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Richard Furrer
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| Jeff Pringle wrote: | | Quote: | | I think he's doing pretty good without it. |
Of course, that's what I meant - Beautiful work, imagine what he could do with some wootz....
This thread is kinda funny (to me), though, 'cause I recently finished forging out a blade (in wootz-ish steel) inspired by the same early Ottoman blade shape - and I can say, there's no one I'd rather be trumped/scooped by than Mr. Vince Evans.
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Jeff,
I don't mean to rub salt, but you got trumped on the wootz as well.
I forged this one a few years ago.
I think this blade strikes a cord in bladesmiths.
Ric
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Jeff Pringle
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Well, you've been ahead of me on the whole wootz thing all along, Ric -
Let me rephrase that - there are no two people I'd rather be trumped by than Mr. Evans & Mr. Furrer.
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