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Karl Knisley




PostPosted: Thu 01 Aug, 2013 6:36 pm    Post subject: The tang on hanwei song sword?         Reply with quote

Hello
What is the tang on the Hanwei Song sword like?Is it a so called "full tang"?The only tang on a Hanwei sword i`ve ever seen was on a Cromwell and it was rather thin.Anybody own one?Thanks in advance



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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Fri 02 Aug, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've asked the same question on a number of different Hanwei swords. In my experience, I've only seen the tang on three or four different models. I'd love to see what's under the grip! Not that I'm worried, mind you. I just put my Hanwei/PC claymore through the wall of a house I'm tearing down. If it could talk...."Is thot all ye got, Laddie? Please, sir, may I have s' more?" Laughing Out Loud .......I have no doubt that the tang on your Song is quite sufficient. Best wishes....McM
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Jason McEntee




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PostPosted: Fri 02 Aug, 2013 4:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

While I haven't seen the sword you mention, I've owned three of the Hanwei/Tinker swords, and all three had nice, thick, beefy tangs.
"You see, a sword is three feet of tempered steel---with death dancing on every inch, and hanging like a dark star on the very point."
--Ronald Lacey, as Oswald, from Sword Of The Valiant, 1984
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Matthew G.M. Korenkiewicz




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PostPosted: Sat 03 Aug, 2013 9:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've looked at that Chinese sword, too, Double-K ... and maybe like you I'm drawn to the
shape and design of the blade, not to mention what appears to be an attractively detailed
scabbard. It appeals to the saberesque tastes I've developed over the last half-dozen
years ...

But have you taken the time to look at the Chinese swords offered by Dynasty Forge ?
The blade shapes are not like the Song. But I own a Dynasty Forge Japanese-style
blade; which was taken apart and examined by craftsman, may he rest in peace,
Henry Ahmu who praised the blade's construction. I'd like to believe their other
offerings are likely just as well made ...

Not to mention half-the-price of even the previously owned Song Sword at KoA ...

Just a thought for you. B-)
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Sat 03 Aug, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tinker /Hanwei swords have a very different build than many swords sold by Hanwei/CAS.

Some of them three piece sword arrangements with a stub tang, middle and welded rod.



You really just don't know until having one apart.

Cheers

GC
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What's that particular sword you have pictured there, Glen?...........McM
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Glen A Cleeton




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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Moore wrote:
What's that particular sword you have pictured there, Glen?...........McM


Godfred

Let me explain the break at the rod though. I had initially ripped a Godfred blade in half and then in going to disassemble the hilt, was frustrated by the glue surrounding the nut under the fancy cap on those swords. I literally rippped the rod off the tang by twisting counterclockwise by hand. I do/did know my own strength.

In obtaining a bare blade (this was from a small batch of them more than a decade ago), I then also noted the middle section is dead soft. Not necessarily bad but worth noting.

I could also wax a bit philosophical at how slight sword tangs generally were past the 17th century but my point is still one won't know until seeing a bare tang themselves, regardless of what some other tangs may look like.

Cheers

GC
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