Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search


myArmoury.com is now completely member-supported. Please contribute to our efforts with a donation. Your donations will go towards updating our site, modernizing it, and keeping it viable long-term.
Last 10 Donors: Graham Shearlaw, Anonymous, Daniel Sullivan, Chad Arnow, Jonathan Dean, M. Oroszlany, Sam Arwas, Barry C. Hutchins, Dan Kary, Oskar Gessler (View All Donors)

Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > Sinewed wood crossbows? Reply to topic
This is a standard topic  
Author Message
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Thu 08 Jun, 2023 5:47 pm    Post subject: Sinewed wood crossbows?         Reply with quote

Of the 9 extant wood crossbow laths I am aware of, 2 are backed, one of which (Royal Armouries Sweden) is definitely sinewed, the other (Alhambra) may be sinewed, or might only be backed with sinew but translations of the Spanish are not perfect . Sinewing offers significant advantages for crossbows but I am not aware of references in medieval texts to sinewed wooden crossbows. It could be that translators only picked up on crossbows and didn’t expound further, or they were sufficiently commonplace as to not be described separately from other wooden crossbows Does anyone know of any texts/sources mentioning adding sinew to wooden laths, or alternatively any papers or articles on the subject?
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
F. Rodel





Joined: 19 Mar 2011

Posts: 7

PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun, 2023 6:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In some Italian sources of the fourteenth century, there are references of "baliste de nervo", i.e. crossbows of sinew. Probably these crossbows were, so to speak, something in between wooden and horn crossbows.
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun, 2023 11:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That’s really useful.! I don’t suppose you could give any references to this?
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Ryan S.




Location: Germany
Joined: 04 May 2012

Posts: 395

PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun, 2023 12:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A while back I read about Andreas Bichler repairing a yew prod with sinews after it was damaged during tillering. Unfortunately, it was only as part of a preview online, and I am not able to read the relevant section now. I don´t know if he explains the historical background to repairing bows with sinews, but it works.

https://www.google.de/books/edition/Jahrblatt_der_Interessengemeinschaft_His/EJQvEAAAQBAJ?hl=de&gbpv=0
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun, 2023 12:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

In that instance, the string caught in the nock and split a section of the lath which was glued back in and bound with a sinew wrap. He wrapped the other end as well just to be safe. Sinew is amazing stuff, I’ve seen it described as natural fibreglass by one modern bowyer.
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Thu 27 Feb, 2025 2:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Been a while but recently I found a translation of some of the regulations concerning the use of sinew on round wood crossbow laths written. by the guild of crossbow makers in the late 13th century. The translation is by S.Manning and on the website “ageofdatini”. The existence of rules controlling the quality of sinew application possibly written before 1270 is a bit of a game changer
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Sean Manning




Location: Austria
Joined: 23 Mar 2008

Posts: 902

PostPosted: Thu 27 Feb, 2025 7:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Andrew V wrote:
Been a while but recently I found a translation of some of the regulations concerning the use of sinew on round wood crossbow laths written. by the guild of crossbow makers in the late 13th century. The translation is by S.Manning and on the website “ageofdatini”. The existence of rules controlling the quality of sinew application possibly written before 1270 is a bit of a game changer

Glad people are finding it helpful! I am not likely to make any crossbows anytime soon.

There are ballistae de nervo in Hewitt's Antient Armour and Weapons in Europe from 1860 and a 2003 book by Elisabeth Crouzet-Pavan. I think the volume The Cutting Edge by Barry Molloy talks about ancient sinewed wood bows.


weekly writing
~ material culture
View user's profile Send private message
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 28 Feb, 2025 1:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So useful! How’s that for poor grammar? Wooden crossbows and wood/sinew crossbows are my current obsession. The insights into correct procedure have changed my own methods- I notice in the 13th item you leave the term”scanellum”, I’m not entirely sure but it might translate to slot or groove?? I guess it maybe a unit of measure for the area around the slot, which I imagine is perhaps the centre of the bow around the bolt groove ?
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Andrew V




Location: Wales, UK
Joined: 17 Jan 2018

Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri 28 Feb, 2025 5:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for the reading list, a quick search found Hewitt available at project Guetenberg . I spent a very pleasant morning reading his work. Really enjoyed myself Happy
If your afraid to ask, you'll never learn
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > Sinewed wood crossbows?
Page 1 of 1 Reply to topic
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2025 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum