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Len Parker





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PostPosted: Tue 20 Oct, 2020 2:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What do you see here: https://www.clevelandart.org/art/1916.1897 Don't those look like theta rings on the chest?
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Nov, 2020 3:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I believe this is mail from Poland: http://muzeum.sanok.pl/images/stories/amm_3_p...iewicz.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Dec, 2020 5:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Don't those look like theta rings on the chest?

It's either that or they are really tiny buckles. Big Grin

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Dec, 2020 5:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A silvered brass mail shirt from Bulgaria: https://sagy.vikingove.cz/decorative-edging-of-mail-armour/
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Some photos of a mail shirt I am trying to get some opinions about, as to approximate time and place of manufacture. Oh, and large areas of the shirt are of alternating riveted and solid construction. https://photos.app.goo.gl/busr55ZpAmiwZBXU8
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Dec, 2020 7:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

James Arlen Gillaspie wrote:
Some photos of a mail shirt I am trying to get some opinions about, as to approximate time and place of manufacture. Oh, and large areas of the shirt are of alternating riveted and solid construction. https://photos.app.goo.gl/busr55ZpAmiwZBXU8

Right over left overlap. Wedge riveting. Watershed peining. Alternating solid and riveted rows. My guess would be German, perhaps 12-14th C.

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Dec, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was thinking German before 1370. It strikes me as a bit light to be a primary defense, so I would put it late enough to have a coat of plates at least. I will add more photos of other parts. Another fellow who has a good reputation for historical mail thinks the collar is European 15th century added to a high quality Islamic shirt. Islamic mail with a smooth underside is new to me, unless imported/captured.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Dec, 2020 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have added more photos. When you click on the photo, there will be a brief description of the photo in the comments. https://photos.app.goo.gl/busr55ZpAmiwZBXU8
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