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Dan Howard
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Ian Hutchison wrote: | It is pretty sobering to realize that the proposed idea made it through the review process and out into academic literature... |
This is what happens when you don't babysit arts grads
Author: Bronze Age Military Equipment, Pen and Sword Books
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Mark Lewis
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Craig Johnson
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Michael A. H.
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Posted: Fri 22 Nov, 2019 6:52 am Post subject: above ship burrial |
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Wow - the LOA to Beam ratio looks wicked, more like a kayak ...
Michael
"Its just the laudanum speaking." Stephen Maturin
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Tue 03 Dec, 2019 6:28 am Post subject: Roman Mail Found |
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This is quite interesting a couple of elements of Roman Mail armor has been found under a fallen wall in a fort in Bulgaria. Here is link to article with images.
While they are in pretty bad shape they are impressive and seem to be mail over a leather base. This is a great find for those interested in this style of armor.
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Wed 04 Dec, 2019 8:08 pm Post subject: Wow Bronze shield parts |
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This is spectacular. I do not think we have posted on this prior but its pretty amazing work.
shield-found-in-pocklington-is-one-of-most-important-ancient-finds-this-millennium-1-10137418?fbclid=IwAR0aoWeSr6peVDBkpUrVMYtX8Dtb18HbE5smip_4knkZ_AmiitTgl3TIIKM" target="_blank" class="postlink">Bronze shield in chariot grave.
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Ralph Grinly
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Posted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Roman Mail Found |
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Craig Johnson wrote: | This is quite interesting a couple of elements of Roman Mail armor has been found under a fallen wall in a fort in Bulgaria. Here is link to article with images.
While they are in pretty bad shape they are impressive and seem to be mail over a leather base. This is a great find for those interested in this style of armor.
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While a very interesting find of late roman armour..this article seems to me to be a bit of a mis-translation. It keeps referring to "mail" attached to leather. But if you read more..it's actually referring to "rectangular iron plates' attached to a leather undergarment in some way. To me, this is not mail in the normal sense, but something else. ? I suspect there's been a error in translation from the original language of the report into English ? What do others think ?
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Jonathan Dean
Location: Australia Joined: 16 Feb 2019
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Posted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I think you're right. Pictures like this:
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And this:
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Appear to be hooped, or perhaps lamellar, armour rather than mail.
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Anthony Clipsom
Location: YORKSHIRE, UK Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 1:34 am Post subject: |
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We are caught in a common trap. This is a piece written by a journalist, not a formal report by an archaeologist, archaeometallagist or whatever. It is therefore frustratingly lacking in the sort of information people here would be looking for.
The pictures seem to focuss on some quite large pieces, which I'd agree look like tubular arm armour and I'd possibly a segmented shoulder guard. But there are 6000 pieces, some of which are iron rectangles. It is possible that we have different components with different contruction methods e.g. tubular arm guards, shoulder pieces and perhaps a body of scales or lamellar.
Anthony Clipsom
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Craig Johnson
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Mark Lewis
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Posted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Info published on Polish Graves |
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Craig Johnson wrote: | Article in Polish, I do not think they have an English language version up as yet but google does an ok job. |
Thanks for sharing! One of the researchers mentioned has shared the English summary of the recent monograph on these excavations:
https://www.academia.edu/41674465/CIEP%C5%81E._AN_ELITE_EARLY_MEDIEVAL_CEMETERY_IN_EASTERN_POMERANIA_ED._S._WADYL
The summary offers a bit more detail about what was discovered, regarding swords in particular:
the type Z shown above is from grave 35 another type Z, also with silver-wrapped grip, in a scabbard, was found in grave 42 (no image) a "classic" type S was found in grave 43 (no image) the other type Z illustrated in the news article was excavated in 1900 from grave V, but was lost after WWII
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Tue 21 Jan, 2020 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Info published on Polish Graves |
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Mark Lewis wrote: | Craig Johnson wrote: | Article in Polish, I do not think they have an English language version up as yet but google does an ok job. |
Thanks for sharing! One of the researchers mentioned has shared the English summary of the recent monograph on these excavations:
https://www.academia.edu/41674465/CIEP%C5%81E._AN_ELITE_EARLY_MEDIEVAL_CEMETERY_IN_EASTERN_POMERANIA_ED._S._WADYL
The summary offers a bit more detail about what was discovered, regarding swords in particular:
the type Z shown above is from grave 35 another type Z, also with silver-wrapped grip, in a scabbard, was found in grave 42 (no image) a "classic" type S was found in grave 43 (no image) the other type Z illustrated in the news article was excavated in 1900 from grave V, but was lost after WWII |
Thank you Mark, thats very helpful.
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Roger Hooper
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Sat 29 Feb, 2020 10:57 am Post subject: This is pretty exceptional |
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It is an exceptional find and one that illustrates you need to keep your eyes peeled. You never know where something will turn up.
These pieces have always intrigued me as far as design and how the first large blades were utilized.
5000 year-old sword discovered in the Armenian Monastery of Venice
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Roger Hooper
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Posted: Sat 29 Feb, 2020 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm kind of puzzled that this is being called a sword. To me it looks like a dagger. ---- Though the very oldest swords were pretty short.
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Fri 06 Mar, 2020 7:55 am Post subject: Iron Age info |
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Interesting article and the helmet reconstruction is pretty impressive.
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Matthew Amt
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Posted: Mon 09 Mar, 2020 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Iron Age info |
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I had forgotten that his finger bones were still stuck to the helmet crest.
They literally had to pry his helmet out of his cold dead hand. Too awesome for words.
Matthew
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Craig Johnson
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Posted: Tue 12 May, 2020 6:34 pm Post subject: Development on earlier post in thread about ship burials |
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Looks like after some exploratory work they have decided to fund the dig on the ship burials that were found and mentioned earlier in this thread. The description sounds like they may be deteriorating quickly.
Viking Ship Burials Archeology
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Tyler C.
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Posted: Thu 14 May, 2020 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Development on earlier post in thread about ship burials |
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Craig Johnson wrote: | Looks like after some exploratory work they have decided to fund the dig on the ship burials that were found and mentioned earlier in this thread. The description sounds like they may be deteriorating quickly.
Viking Ship Burials Archeology |
This is really exciting! I wish this kind of thing was televised live. I'd be watching it constantly.
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Tyler C.
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