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PostPosted: Mon 28 Oct, 2019 5:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ian Hutchison wrote:
It is pretty sobering to realize that the proposed idea made it through the review process and out into academic literature...

This is what happens when you don't babysit arts grads Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hoard of parts of a hundred Viking swords found in Estonia, including mostly type H, also types V and E:
https://www.ibtimes.sg/archaeologists-unearth-100-viking-swords-northern-estonia-32702
http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_news/...p;output=d

One pay-walled article includes the following image that seems to match the description of many parts of type H swords:

Most English articles are running with the following image for some reason, often without disclosing that it comes from a different find of later medieval date, from Läänemaa:
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2019 6:11 am    Post subject: Excellent find in Norway         Reply with quote

Excellent find in Norway using ground radar, ship burial in Edoy.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov, 2019 6:52 am    Post subject: above ship burrial         Reply with quote

Wow - the LOA to Beam ratio looks wicked, more like a kayak ...
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec, 2019 6:28 am    Post subject: Roman Mail Found         Reply with quote

This is quite interesting a couple of elements of Roman Mail armor has been found under a fallen wall in a fort in Bulgaria. Here is link to article with images.

While they are in pretty bad shape they are impressive and seem to be mail over a leather base. This is a great find for those interested in this style of armor.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2019 8:08 pm    Post subject: Wow Bronze shield parts         Reply with quote

This is spectacular. I do not think we have posted on this prior but its pretty amazing work.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Roman Mail Found         Reply with quote

Craig Johnson wrote:
This is quite interesting a couple of elements of Roman Mail armor has been found under a fallen wall in a fort in Bulgaria. Here is link to article with images.

While they are in pretty bad shape they are impressive and seem to be mail over a leather base. This is a great find for those interested in this style of armor.



While a very interesting find of late roman armour..this article seems to me to be a bit of a mis-translation. It keeps referring to "mail" attached to leather. But if you read more..it's actually referring to "rectangular iron plates' attached to a leather undergarment in some way. To me, this is not mail in the normal sense, but something else. ? I suspect there's been a error in translation from the original language of the report into English ? What do others think ?
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 12:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think you're right. Pictures like this:

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And this:



Appear to be hooped, or perhaps lamellar, armour rather than mail.
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PostPosted: Thu 05 Dec, 2019 1:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

We are caught in a common trap. This is a piece written by a journalist, not a formal report by an archaeologist, archaeometallagist or whatever. It is therefore frustratingly lacking in the sort of information people here would be looking for.

The pictures seem to focuss on some quite large pieces, which I'd agree look like tubular arm armour and I'd possibly a segmented shoulder guard. But there are 6000 pieces, some of which are iron rectangles. It is possible that we have different components with different contruction methods e.g. tubular arm guards, shoulder pieces and perhaps a body of scales or lamellar.

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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jan, 2020 7:18 am    Post subject: Info published on Polish Graves         Reply with quote

Article in Polish, I do not think they have an English language version up as yet but google does an ok job. Some excellent images

four warriors buried in the eleventh century in the tombs in Pomerania came from Scandinavia

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Jan, 2020 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: Info published on Polish Graves         Reply with quote

Craig Johnson wrote:
Article in Polish, I do not think they have an English language version up as yet but google does an ok job.

Thanks for sharing! One of the researchers mentioned has shared the English summary of the recent monograph on these excavations:

https://www.academia.edu/41674465/CIEP%C5%81E._AN_ELITE_EARLY_MEDIEVAL_CEMETERY_IN_EASTERN_POMERANIA_ED._S._WADYL

The summary offers a bit more detail about what was discovered, regarding swords in particular:
    the type Z shown above is from grave 35
    another type Z, also with silver-wrapped grip, in a scabbard, was found in grave 42 (no image)
    a "classic" type S was found in grave 43 (no image)
    the other type Z illustrated in the news article was excavated in 1900 from grave V, but was lost after WWII
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Jan, 2020 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: Info published on Polish Graves         Reply with quote

Mark Lewis wrote:
Craig Johnson wrote:
Article in Polish, I do not think they have an English language version up as yet but google does an ok job.

Thanks for sharing! One of the researchers mentioned has shared the English summary of the recent monograph on these excavations:

https://www.academia.edu/41674465/CIEP%C5%81E._AN_ELITE_EARLY_MEDIEVAL_CEMETERY_IN_EASTERN_POMERANIA_ED._S._WADYL

The summary offers a bit more detail about what was discovered, regarding swords in particular:
    the type Z shown above is from grave 35
    another type Z, also with silver-wrapped grip, in a scabbard, was found in grave 42 (no image)
    a "classic" type S was found in grave 43 (no image)
    the other type Z illustrated in the news article was excavated in 1900 from grave V, but was lost after WWII



Thank you Mark, thats very helpful. Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Jan, 2020 1:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Italian 7th century BC Iron Age tomb with chariot and weapons -

https://www.livescience.com/princely-tomb-iron-age-italy.html?fbclid=IwAR3nTjjZenVielQy_l-zPnUrY7kO-W5wJffzyGZPsvf78bkFuSpSxatcKNk
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Feb, 2020 10:57 am    Post subject: This is pretty exceptional         Reply with quote

It is an exceptional find and one that illustrates you need to keep your eyes peeled. You never know where something will turn up.

These pieces have always intrigued me as far as design and how the first large blades were utilized.

5000 year-old sword discovered in the Armenian Monastery of Venice

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Feb, 2020 11:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm kind of puzzled that this is being called a sword. To me it looks like a dagger. ---- Though the very oldest swords were pretty short.
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Mar, 2020 7:55 am    Post subject: Iron Age info         Reply with quote

Interesting article and the helmet reconstruction is pretty impressive.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Mar, 2020 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Iron Age info         Reply with quote

Craig Johnson wrote:
Interesting article and the helmet reconstruction is pretty impressive.



I had forgotten that his finger bones were still stuck to the helmet crest.

They literally had to pry his helmet out of his cold dead hand. Too awesome for words.

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