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Tom Wolfe
Location: East Anglia, England Joined: 10 Aug 2015
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: Thomas Del Mar, London 29 June 2016 |
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Is anyone here going to check out the sale? Anyone got their eye on anything?
TW
Collector of original 16th-17th century European arms and armour. Would like to collect earlier, but budget doesn't allow- yet!
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Eric S
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Mark Griffin
Location: The Welsh Marches, in the hills above Newtown, Powys. Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: |
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certainly am, some very nice stuff there, viewing next wek, then sitting at home and bidding online, it does get packed in there...
Currently working on projects ranging from Elizabethan pageants to a WW1 Tank, Victorian fairgrounds 1066 events and more. Oh and we joust loads!.. We run over 250 events for English Heritage each year plus many others for Historic Royal Palaces, Historic Scotland, the National Trust and more. If you live in the UK and are interested in working for us just drop us a line with a cv.
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J. Nicolaysen
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I don't know how it is in the Antique Arms Auction community, but in the livestock business, sometimes us ranchers and farmers will do a bit of colluding to make sure we aren't bidding on the same lot as our neighbor. Keeps good relations. Of course, a particularly nice bull or lot of steers might just go ahead and force a bidding war. Beer after the sale helps keep things smooth, as well as tight fence....
Wish I could go!
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Julien M
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I might just go too - never been so far and I'm in London. Been contemplating buying genuine antiques for a while too, and when you see the entry prices, you can easily get carried away
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Mark Griffin
Location: The Welsh Marches, in the hills above Newtown, Powys. Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Re the beer, there is a good pub opposite that gives discounts on food if you say you are at the auction. :-)
I've often considered talking to other collectors about things i might, or indeed might not, want but never taken that plunge. The bidding war thing is the main worry, I might say I'll bid up to X on lot Y, then change my mind once the blood is up. Then you end up either spending far more, or causing a mate to do the same.
Currently working on projects ranging from Elizabethan pageants to a WW1 Tank, Victorian fairgrounds 1066 events and more. Oh and we joust loads!.. We run over 250 events for English Heritage each year plus many others for Historic Royal Palaces, Historic Scotland, the National Trust and more. If you live in the UK and are interested in working for us just drop us a line with a cv.
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Mark Griffin
Location: The Welsh Marches, in the hills above Newtown, Powys. Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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This sale looks like a v good chance to get a reasonably priced german 16th/17th cent helmet btw, a good few in there.
Currently working on projects ranging from Elizabethan pageants to a WW1 Tank, Victorian fairgrounds 1066 events and more. Oh and we joust loads!.. We run over 250 events for English Heritage each year plus many others for Historic Royal Palaces, Historic Scotland, the National Trust and more. If you live in the UK and are interested in working for us just drop us a line with a cv.
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Eric S
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Julien M wrote: | Been contemplating buying genuine antiques for a while too, and when you see the entry prices, you can easily get carried away | Dont let their initial price fool you, anything nice will usually get bid up quite a bit, then there is the auction house %, and shipping etc. It can end up being quite expensive but occasionally, especially with lesser known auctuion houses some good deals do slip by.
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Mark Griffin
Location: The Welsh Marches, in the hills above Newtown, Powys. Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, very often the end prices are easily double the estimates. However some dont even get there, its a weird world once the bidding starts.
Currently working on projects ranging from Elizabethan pageants to a WW1 Tank, Victorian fairgrounds 1066 events and more. Oh and we joust loads!.. We run over 250 events for English Heritage each year plus many others for Historic Royal Palaces, Historic Scotland, the National Trust and more. If you live in the UK and are interested in working for us just drop us a line with a cv.
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J. Nicolaysen
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Auctions can be fun, but I try not to get a number unless I am going to get it. Whatever it is. That can be a little nerve-wracking! More fun just to go to the spectacle, and maybe go private treaty for the items. Well, good luck bidders, if you get anything, please share with us!
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Eric S
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Posted: Tue 21 Jun, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Griffin wrote: | Yep, very often the end prices are easily double the estimates. However some dont even get there, its a weird world once the bidding starts. | Bad images, unrealistically high starting prices and bad descriptions have something to do items not being sold for what they are worth or not being sold at all, you have to ask for additional images when necessary.
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Tom Wolfe
Location: East Anglia, England Joined: 10 Aug 2015
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Posted: Wed 22 Jun, 2016 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Mark Griffin wrote: | certainly am, some very nice stuff there, viewing next wek, then sitting at home and bidding online, it does get packed in there... |
How effective js the online bidding system? Will you live-bid or just leave a commission bid?
I have my eye on a black and white morion. Need to view them next week. Also interested in the other German Spanish-style morions if a bid for a black and white is unsuccessful.
Collector of original 16th-17th century European arms and armour. Would like to collect earlier, but budget doesn't allow- yet!
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Thomas Del Mar
Location: London, United Kingdom Joined: 22 Jun 2016
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Posted: Wed 22 Jun, 2016 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Thomas Del Mar, London 29 June 2016 |
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Tom Wolfe wrote: | Is anyone here going to check out the sale? Anyone got their eye on anything?
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Happy to answer any questions you might have and supply further information and images if needed. Hope to meet you at the exhibition which opens this Sunday at 25 Blythe Road, W14 0PD
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Eric S
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Posted: Wed 22 Jun, 2016 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Tom Wolfe wrote: | Mark Griffin wrote: | certainly am, some very nice stuff there, viewing next wek, then sitting at home and bidding online, it does get packed in there... |
How effective js the online bidding system? Will you live-bid or just leave a commission bid?
| In order to bid online you will need to register, dont wait to long as it may take some time, credit card, id with proof of address is usually required.
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Tom Wolfe
Location: East Anglia, England Joined: 10 Aug 2015
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Posted: Wed 22 Jun, 2016 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Thomas Del Mar, London 29 June 2016 |
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Thomas Del Mar wrote: | Tom Wolfe wrote: | Is anyone here going to check out the sale? Anyone got their eye on anything?
TW |
Happy to answer any questions you might have and supply further information and images if needed. Hope to meet you at the exhibition which opens this Sunday at 25 Blythe Road, W14 0PD |
Collector of original 16th-17th century European arms and armour. Would like to collect earlier, but budget doesn't allow- yet!
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Tom Wolfe
Location: East Anglia, England Joined: 10 Aug 2015
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Posted: Thu 30 Jun, 2016 6:01 am Post subject: |
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So did anyone here manage to bag anything yesterday?
I was fortunate in nailing a black-and-white morion, which was my goal for the day, and also a black-and-white burgonet, which seemed to be going for a song and therefore worth a punt. I therefore put myself out of the running for a breastplate to match, but there's always next time...
Collector of original 16th-17th century European arms and armour. Would like to collect earlier, but budget doesn't allow- yet!
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Eric S
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Posted: Thu 30 Jun, 2016 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Tom Wolfe wrote: | So did anyone here manage to bag anything yesterday?
I was fortunate in nailing a black-and-white morion, which was my goal for the day, and also a black-and-white burgonet, which seemed to be going for a song and therefore worth a punt. I therefore put myself out of the running for a breastplate to match, but there's always next time... | How about some pictures when your armor arrives, or links to the auction images? I was registered, there was an Ottoman military kilij I was interested in but I found another auction with a better one so nothing for me.
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Tom Wolfe
Location: East Anglia, England Joined: 10 Aug 2015
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Posted: Thu 30 Jun, 2016 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Eric S wrote: | Tom Wolfe wrote: | So did anyone here manage to bag anything yesterday?
I was fortunate in nailing a black-and-white morion, which was my goal for the day, and also a black-and-white burgonet, which seemed to be going for a song and therefore worth a punt. I therefore put myself out of the running for a breastplate to match, but there's always next time... | How about some pictures when your armor arrives, or links to the auction images? I was registered, there was an Ottoman military kilij I was interested in but I found another auction with a better one so nothing for me. |
I've got the items at home- I was in the saleroom all day. I'll aim to get some photos uploaded this evening...
Collector of original 16th-17th century European arms and armour. Would like to collect earlier, but budget doesn't allow- yet!
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Lee O'Hagan
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Posted: Thu 30 Jun, 2016 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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will the sold prices be added ?
this one nearly had me going through the mill to bid,
http://www.thomasdelmar.com/Catalogues/as290616/lot0083.html
but alas timing is terrible,
did anyone see the raven sword go through, although not an antique, it looks a fine sword,
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