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Luka Borscak
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Lin Robinson
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I am familiar with at least two of those swords and yes the baskets are large. I doubt you will be satisfied based on your question. Other than the first one, which is an 1828 pattern sword, they are not replicas of any particular school of hilt making or military style sword.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Gottfried P. Doerler
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*off topic mode on
wow. never seen weaponedge before. they offer some really rare replicas. 1796 HC, and french AN XIII e.g. wow.
does anyone know how their prices are, and the quality of their blades ? thx.
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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The last one looks like a version of the old Windlass "Culloden" claymore, albiet with a blackened rather than a chromed basket. The old Windlass basket was freaking huge. I've described it as "large enough to drive a truck through" which is a bit of an exaggeration. In reality, it's only large enough to drive one of those "smart" cars through.... :eek:
The other two are the Cold Steel basket hilts. These are of a more reasonable size, but still a bit larger than most historical examples would have been.
David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
Now available on Amazon: Franklin Posner's "Suburban Vampire: A Tale of the Human Condition -- With Vampires" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N7Y591
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Lin Robinson
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| David Wilson wrote: | The last one looks like a version of the old Windlass "Culloden" claymore, albiet with a blackened rather than a chromed basket. The old Windlass basket was freaking huge. I've described it as "large enough to drive a truck through" which is a bit of an exaggeration. In reality, it's only large enough to drive one of those "smart" cars through.... :eek:
The other two are the Cold Steel basket hilts. These are of a more reasonable size, but still a bit larger than most historical examples would have been. |
I thought the guards looked like Cold Steel guards but the photos were so small I could not be sure! I think you are right about the one that looks like the old MR claymore. I have one of those in the closet but it was chromed. The blades look different though.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Luka Borscak
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Looks like I'm gone skip these. What about the Hanwei broadsword and backsword baskets? What size are they?
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Lin Robinson
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| Luka Borscak wrote: | | Looks like I'm gone skip these. What about the Hanwei broadsword and backsword baskets? What size are they? |
They are larger than original hilts but much closer to the correct size. I have large hands and they fit me very well. Of the two, the broadsword has the smaller basket.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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It's worth mentioning that Hanwei typically uses stainless steel in their basket-hilts. For some people, that's a turn-off.
:)
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Lin Robinson
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | It's worth mentioning that Hanwei typically uses stainless steel in their basket-hilts. For some people, that's a turn-off. |
Yes they do, but it has a "brushed" appearance, for lack of a better term, rather than the high polish or chrome of some others. And, the price is not too bad.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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| Lin Robinson wrote: | | Yes they do, but it has a "brushed" appearance, for lack of a better term, rather than the high polish or chrome of some others. And, the price is not too bad. |
I know. :) I thought it was worth mentioning as stainless steel, in any application, is a non-starter for some folks. It's better than the chrome over copper over steel MRL used to use.
:)
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Luka Borscak
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I would like it the most if it was just good old plain iron or low carbon steel... But there are too few production baskethilts to be really picky...
Btw, would painting it black with some substance be preferable historically to naked steel finish?
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Luka Borscak wrote: | I would like it the most if it was just good old plain iron or low carbon steel... But there are too few production baskethilts to be really picky...
Btw, would painting it black with some substance be preferable historically to naked steel finish? |
Actually, many original baskets were either browned or "japanned", which is a finish with a black lacquer. Painting black wouldn't too far off, although the paint might chip or flake off....
David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
Now available on Amazon: Franklin Posner's "Suburban Vampire: A Tale of the Human Condition -- With Vampires" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N7Y591
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Jim Mearkle
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If it helps, I put the basket and pommel of my Hanwei mort in the oven at 350 F for an hour or two, and it came out sort of a white bronze color. It doesn't look like plain carbon steel, but at least it looks less stainlessy.
The pommel came out darker than the hilt, so you would probably want to watch it if you tried this.
Jim
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Lin Robinson
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| Luka Borscak wrote: | I would like it the most if it was just good old plain iron or low carbon steel... But there are too few production baskethilts to be really picky...
Btw, would painting it black with some substance be preferable historically to naked steel finish? |
Hanwei offers the backsword and broadsword with what they call an antique finish. I have both swords, one antiqued and one not. The antiqued actually looks pretty good as it looks as if the sword has been japanned. It has some wear in spots which adds to the look of the hilt, IMHO.
Lin Robinson
"The best thing in life is to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women." Conan the Barbarian, 1982
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