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Ben Potter
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 Posted: Sat 13 Nov, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject: Privateer Armoury, Messer |
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Weight: 14oz
Length overall: 30 in. Blade: 24
Blade: 15N20 steel 1/16 in thiick
Guard: 1/8 in steel
Grips: red oak.
The Point of balance (PoB) is 6 in forward of the guard.
The primary node (CoP) is 15 in forward of the guard
The secondary node is between the first and and second rivets.
SOLD
Ben Potter Bladesmith
It's not that I would trade my lot
For any other man's,
Nor that I will be ashamed
Of my work torn hands-
For I have chosen the path I tread
Knowing it would be steep,
And I will take the joys thereof
And the consequences reap.
Last edited by Ben Potter on Mon 15 Nov, 2010 1:14 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Reece Nelson
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| Posted: Sat 13 Nov, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject: messer |
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oh I like! Love how simple it is 
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Stephen Curtin
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| Posted: Sat 13 Nov, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice work Ben and at a very reasonable price, can't wait to see what comes out next on the privateer line
Éirinn go Brách
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Nathan Robinson
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Paul Hansen
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Ok, this one definitely makes it on my "want" list. 
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Connor Ruebusch
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Agreed. S'awesome, sir.
Ex animo,
Connor
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Johan K
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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nice!
Wonder what the balance feels like, as there's no weighed metal pommel...
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Luka Borscak
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| Johan K wrote: | nice!
Wonder what the balance feels like, as there's no weighed metal pommel... |
But it weighs less than a pound!  Awesome!
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Michael R. Black
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I like it, but i'm curious as to whether other woods might be selected for the handle (at increased cost, I assume)?
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Dan Dickinson
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| Posted: Sun 14 Nov, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Looks nice. My only concern is that both this and the cutlass are listed as 1/16 in thick....that seems awfully thin.....do you mean 3/16 ? Or are they really that thin?
Thanks,
Dan
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Julien M
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| Posted: Mon 15 Nov, 2010 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| Dan Dickinson wrote: | Looks nice. My only concern is that both this and the cutlass are listed as 1/16 in thick....that seems awfully thin.....do you mean 3/16 ? Or are they really that thin?
Thanks,
Dan |
Good point. More detail pictures of the blade and hilt component would also be nice!
That's a good design, one that many have been waiting for at this price point.
Cheers,
Julien
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Ben Potter
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| Posted: Mon 15 Nov, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: |
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The blades on these are 1/16 in. (well actually closer to .070)
Thicker ones are available but slightly higher price point ($400+)
Also, the messer is spoken for.
Ben Potter Bladesmith
It's not that I would trade my lot
For any other man's,
Nor that I will be ashamed
Of my work torn hands-
For I have chosen the path I tread
Knowing it would be steep,
And I will take the joys thereof
And the consequences reap.
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John Apsega
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| Posted: Tue 16 Nov, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thats prolly the only messer that I have ever scene that I actually really like. Whoever got his hands on this is a lucky lucky guy.
"With 2000 years of examples behind us we have no excuse when fighting, for not fighting well." T. E. Lawrence
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Hadrian Coffin
Industry Professional
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| Posted: Tue 16 Nov, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
Looks lovely, can you do these blunt? I know a few people interested in more WMA messer variety.
Cheers,
Hadrian
Historia magistra vitae est
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Ben Potter
Industry Professional
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| Posted: Tue 16 Nov, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Normally I only do "sharpes" but blunts can be commissioned, Contact me if you are interested.
Ben Potter Bladesmith
It's not that I would trade my lot
For any other man's,
Nor that I will be ashamed
Of my work torn hands-
For I have chosen the path I tread
Knowing it would be steep,
And I will take the joys thereof
And the consequences reap.
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Bill Grandy
myArmoury Team
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| Posted: Thu 18 Nov, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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And the recipient of this fine piece just had it delivered to his door. 
I have to say, for $275, this is a heck of a deal. This is a very nice handling weapon, and really is a fun piece to take through messerfechten plays. It's very light and wicked fast in feints and attacks. The blade is a little thinner at the spine than one would often see with this type of weapon, but as Ben mentioned above, he'd have to charge more if the blade were thicker, which defeats the purpose of his Privateer Armoury line. The fact that the blade is thin makes it incredibly light, and therefore it does not require a pommel to have a nice lively balance. The nagel is not peened through the cross the way most historical messers are, but it rests under the guard in an unobtrusive way that is still very plausible; It's even possible that some historical messers exist with this set up that I'm not aware of, as it's a very simple but effective design. Accurate or not, it's more than acceptable for the price.
Ben was super fast in shipping this to me, and that includes the time it took for him to make a wooden box for the sword. The box not only kept the sword safe for shipping, but will also make a nice transport case.
I really recommend Ben's work. I'm frankly a little shocked that a single custom maker can put out such a nice piece of this quality.
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Isaac H.
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Wow,that presentation box is a great little bonus! I know it would be WAY easier to store my swords away if they all came in beautiful handmade boxes.That is one of the coolest messers I've seen yet.The handle reminds me a little of a heavy duty kitchen knife,but that only adds to the uniqueness of the piece.Ben Potter is a great guy,and extremely talented in what he does.It's hard to believe he even makes a profit with such an affordable price tag.One could end up paying more for a couple mass produced wall-hangers than for this fantastic custom piece.Awesome work,Ben Potter!
Wounds of flesh a surgeons skill may heal...
But wounded honor is only cured with steel.
We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves.
Each of us should please his neighbor for his good ,to build him up.
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Ben Potter
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| Posted: Thu 18 Nov, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm really happy to hear that you are happy with the piece.
By the way the nagel actually runs about 3/4 of the way down the tang to which it is welded. The rivets pass through it as well.
Ben Potter Bladesmith
It's not that I would trade my lot
For any other man's,
Nor that I will be ashamed
Of my work torn hands-
For I have chosen the path I tread
Knowing it would be steep,
And I will take the joys thereof
And the consequences reap.
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David Teague
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | And the recipient of this fine piece just had it delivered to his door. |
You suck... I so hate you. 
Bill, once again you beat me to something nice. 
I think what Ben has created is one of those messers that could have seen duty on the farm chopping "things" while working and used later that day in defense with bandits.
I'd love to have one.
Now to figure out how to slip the money out of the joint account with out getting caught...
See you in Sept Bill, if not sooner.
Cheers,
David
This you shall know, that all things have length and measure.
Free Scholar/ Instructor Selohaar Fechtschule
The Historic Recrudescence Guild
"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou's sword art is with me; Thy poleaxe and Thy quarterstaff they comfort me."
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Thu 18 Nov, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Ben Potter wrote: | | I'm really happy to hear that you are happy with the piece. |
Yes, very happy with it! I did some cutting with it tonight, and it was a pleasure to use.
| Quote: | | By the way the nagel actually runs about 3/4 of the way down the tang to which it is welded. The rivets pass through it as well. |
Ah! Good to know!
| David Teague wrote: | | You suck... I so hate you. |
I aim to please. :-p
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