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Zach Gordon




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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Ballock dagger?         Reply with quote

Hi, y'all.
I have a question concerning "Ballock Daggers", and the shape of the hilt. I was going to buy one of these and I showed a picture to a friend of mine that is not into this kind of thing. He thought it would not be a good buy because the shape of the hilt reminded him of er.......male genitalia. After hearing that and looking at a couple of ballock daggers I couldn't help but agree.... And as these were worn on the belt near that region, I was wondering if they were specifically designed to look like you know what. Are there any historical documents, etc. that confirm or denounce this, um, theory?
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Z
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The design is intentionally aimed at being a representation of the male anatomy.

Did you read our Spotlight article on the Ballock dagger? It's linked in your post, above.


Spotlight: The Ballock Dagger

An article by Jason Elrod

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Zach Gordon




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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks man! Sorry I had not seen that article.
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Z
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 3:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Cool. One other thing worth mentioning is that the original photo you provided as a link is an example that is particularly "anatomic" in nature. Not only are the "lobes" present and quite defined, the grip and "pommel end" are also carved to represent the male anatomy.

In medieval culture, the phallic nature of imagery and art was not frowned upon, but was embraced and often flaunted. The ideas of shame and modesty were different than ours are today. They, of course, existed in their society, but they were not the same as modern notions.

Many ballock daggers are quite stylized, but like the one you show above, others are very lifelike. As our ballock dagger spotlight article mentions, the prudish Victorian culture renamed these daggers "kidney daggers" to deny the obvious phallic association.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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The design is intentionally aimed at being a representation of the male anatomy.


Question is why?
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hector Mendoza wrote:
Question is why?


Did you read my post above?

Phallic imagery is found throughout recorded history as a sign of virility, masculinity, and other things.

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Andrew Maxwell




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PostPosted: Mon 12 Oct, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just a note for anyone else who didn't realise- "ballock" or "bollock" are (rather old) English slang terms for testicles. Big Grin
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Sean Manning




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PostPosted: Tue 13 Oct, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hector Mendoza wrote:
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The design is intentionally aimed at being a representation of the male anatomy.


Question is why?

In the period when ballock daggers were popular, men would often wear a dagger at the front center of their belt. I'm sure medieval people made jokes about the long, hard, straight thing hanging between their legs, and some picked daggers which would add to the joke.
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