Brescia Castle, Castelvecchio Verona -- myArmoury.com

Henrik Zoltan Toth · Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2007 1:21 am Post subject:

Wow!

Were you (or somebody else from here) maybe in Castello di Avio too? It is somewhere by Monte Baldo, and the rooms are painted with battle scenes about the Neapolitan-Hungarian wars in the 14. Century, full with kipchak mounted archers.

Zoltán

Felix R. · Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2007 4:10 am Post subject:

Hello Henrik,

we hae not been to Avio. We had our honeymoon and my wife is not into the armour thing, so he had to do arrangements.

We visited Brescia castle, Castelvecchio - wehre I could take some pictures-, Palazzo Ducale in Venecia and Churburg in Schluderns.

Both in Venecia and Schluderns the photographing was forbidden, so I could only take two pictures before being noticed by the employees.

Though both collections are nice, the Ducal arms and armour collection looks like there are pieces from the arsenal, as there are many swords of the variety shown side by side. Especially the two handed swords looked very unique to me. They had wide blades with a ricasso about a handwidth long there was only some profile taper, but the point narrowed down drastically to nearly a rectangular needle about from about 4-5 cm before the point. I didn´t see this before.

In Churburg the collection is awsome, but you can only get access in course of a guided tour, which limits viewing time.
At least I bought their new book from 2006. Although it is not a cataloge of the entire collection it shows some very good details of their armour and is nearly more an art book than a collection guide. It should supplement the pics available through the internet so far very well.

Allen Andrews · Posted: Mon 01 Oct, 2007 4:11 am Post subject:

Thanks very much for the posting of so many wonderful photos. Such a wealth of polearms! I was also interested in the helm that looked rather like an open-faced barbute with a nasal attached?

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 3:34 am Post subject:

Here are more Pictures from Castelvecchio in Verona. A problem was that every photography was comented with "No Flash!" by the employees, the bad light in the location resulted in a picture quality that was not too good in most cases.

First some outside views of the castle.

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 3:43 am Post subject:

Here is some idea of the collection, which is mainly art. I just took pictures of the arms and armour mostly. Those excavated pieces were new, I didn´t recongise them last year. There were about 6 vitrines with this stuff, I just took pics from two.

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 3:48 am Post subject:

The next batch.

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 3:52 am Post subject:

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 4:04 am Post subject:

This is the statue of Mastino II. della Scala (1351). You allknow the Cangrande I. della Scala with the smiling face. This is his successor. I didn´t find the statue on the first visit. Here are some whole views and then there are some details. This is one of the statues that adorned the Arche della Scala, the ancient tombs. The original statues are at Castelveccio. Mastion is in the clock tower and Cangrande at the entrance to the art collection.

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 4:05 am Post subject:

Felix R. · Posted: Wed 03 Oct, 2007 4:15 am Post subject:

Here are some pictures of the Churburg, the panorama from above Schluderns. I have three pictures of the armoury. As they don´t allow taking pictures I won´t post them here, so that there won´t be their lawyer knocking at my door in a few days.
Nearly forgot the pictures from St. Zeno church in Verona.

Alessandro Fantucci · Posted: Sat 21 Jun, 2008 5:35 am Post subject:

SPETTACULAR!!!!!!!

VERY VERY VERY GOOD IMMAGE.

If you like Army museum and love Italy go to MUSEO STIBBERT of Florence.....

I've never seen Brescia Castle, now I must remedy!!!

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Hisham Gaballa · Posted: Sat 21 Jun, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject:

I'm not quite sure why a 9 month old post has been "necroed", but thanks, great pictures! My sister has just come back from Northern Italy after working there for 5 months. I wish I knew about this, i would have asked her to go and take some photos for me. She did go to the Museo Stibbert and Armeria Realle in Turin, but she wasn't allowed to take photos there.

Lafayette C Curtis · Posted: Thu 26 Jun, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

Hmm...those St. George pictures seem to have interesting...breeches? I wonder if it's meant to be a representation of contemporary clothing or some sort of artistic trope for Byzantines (assuming that the artists knew good old George served in Anatolia)?

B. Fulton · Posted: Thu 26 Jun, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject:

Felix if I had known you were in the area I could have helped you out in Venezia.

they don't "not allow" pics in the Palazzo Ducale, they don't allow "flash" photos. I've taken photos in there. If you're being respectful and no-flash they generally don't seem to mind.

Having done a 90 minute photo raid on the British Museum, i certainly know about working under time pressure!

If anyone else has Northern Italy musuems you want to see, PM me and I'll see what i can do around my work schedule.

Felix R. · Posted: Thu 26 Jun, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject:

Hello, I started taking pictures in Palazzo Ducale. Unfortunately ther were severeal school classes visiting the museum at the same time and they made fun and didn´t behave. After a few seconds one of the museums staff turned up and told the whole visitor groups not to take pictures. The signs also forbade photographing.

Merv Cannon · Posted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: Small Cameras

Hi Felix ..........Thanks for all the great shots ! Do you have a small folding tripod ? ...sort of a must in some of those Museums ( at least the one which allow photos ) For those that don't...er, well there's always these........
( not that I would recommend that you do anything sneaky or anything ! )
..... I just include them purely out of interest ! ...for example with the "pen", you can simply walk around taking "notes" .....yes........."notes", lots of nice clear " notes". ! Big Grin

Lawrence Parramore · Posted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:

Ask about using a tripod, it is just that the Museums are worried about people falling over one of the legs, and the resultant problems from that.

If you ask they 'might' be quite helpful in some museums, you will have done the right thing and in some museums they will appreciate the courtesy.

Felix R. · Posted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 7:16 am Post subject:

Most of the pictures at the Marzolli in Brescia were taken using my mobile phone cam. Because without flesh, the cheap digital camera was not able to get sharp pictures, as you can see in the first batches.

After the journay, I ordered a tripod. So for the next visit I will be prepared. In Palazzo Ducale even if it was allowed, a tripod wouldn´t work because of the masses of people pressing through the corridors. In Brescia it would not have been a problem, but I was very short in time. Entered the museum at 12:30 and they closed half an hour later. So a described in the first post, it was a real run through the museum. I hope to be able to visit it again next year.

Alessandro Fantucci · Posted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:

Like a Museal-Spy or 007 Happy

All this picture are very interesting!!!

In Italy the Museums prohibit photographing for preserve the Art value.....but, for The reenactors and the history fans, this is a penality!!!

Forgive my bad English Cry

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B. Fulton · Posted: Sat 28 Jun, 2008 2:02 am Post subject:

I have bad knees, and sometimes carry a walking stick.

In Ireland I picked up a cane/walking stick (lots of hills) since I collect them anyways.

Being intelligent, I used it as a monopod for camera shots across Ireland and France. Happy

I'd be kneeling for a shot and just rest it atop the stick's handle. Great steadying device.