Bucklers' handles -- myArmoury.com

Vincent Le Chevalier · Posted: Sun 24 Jun, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: Bucklers' handles

I'm thinking about making myself a buckler, and was looking at examples in artwork (mainly in Arma's articles) as well as existing modern reproductions, when something struck me as strange...

On most modern repros the handle seems to be a solid bar spanning across the umbo, riveted to the face of the buckler at both ends. The bar is generally of uniform width, except in GDFB bucklers where it is formed by flattening a tube. Anyhow, I cannot find a modern buckler that looks like what is found in two important period sources: Ms I.33 and Codex Manesse.

Here are two examples of what I'm talking about:
I.33: 18v (36)
Manesse: Plate 62

The handle seems to span the whole diameter of the buckler, merging into the rim. And its width is not constant, the handle widens as it goes towards the rim. Of course, it could be just an artistic convention, but still... Which construction method could lead to such a shape?

Honestly my first thought was a strap of leather that shrinks in the middle due to the grip of the hand, but I doubt it would be very practical; maybe the orientation of the buckler would be hard to control.

The other solution I see would be a wooden handle that is wider at the extremities to reinforce the fixation points, and thinner in the middle to allow for a comfortable grip. I think it would even be possible to have an oval grip this way, pointing towards the face of the buckler. I don't think a metal handle would have been made in that shape...

Obviously the material and shape of the handle could have a strong influence on the buckler's handling. So I'm curious to hear the opinion of the forum members...

Regards

George Hill · Posted: Sun 24 Jun, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

Vincent Le Chevalier · Posted: Sun 24 Jun, 2007 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

Steven H · Posted: Sun 24 Jun, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

I make the handles on my bucklers similar to the ones you show. They widen for the fixation point and narrow for the grip. And the grip isn't circular so as to help orient the buckler face.

George Hill · Posted: Sun 24 Jun, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

Johan S. Moen · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 4:41 am Post subject:

I think those bucklers may be bowl-shaped, ie. turned on a lathe. That might explain the handle attachment. Can't remember the source for this, so I'll have to dig some... Confused

Johan Schubert Moen

Vincent Le Chevalier · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 5:41 am Post subject:

Merv Cannon · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

[quote="Vincent Le Chevalier
The handle seems to span the whole diameter of the buckler, merging into the rim. And its width is not constant, the handle widens as it goes towards the rim. Of course, it could be just an artistic convention, but still... Which construction method could lead to such a shape ?
Obviously the material and shape of the handle could have a strong influence on the buckler's handling. So I'm curious to hear the opinion of the forum members... [/quote]

Hi Vincent......I think that there's some detail missing in the manuscript art. The handles would have been metal with a wood grip riveted on or else totally wood. They are really just a minature version of a Viking / Anglo-Saxon arangement.
The metal could be 2mm. This type of grip was often flaired out at the ends...sort of like a little Fleur-de-Lys. They are not hard to make .........you can cut it out with a Jig-saw or else I could forge one up for you..... no prob. !
Cheers !

Vincent Le Chevalier · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 5:57 am Post subject:

Vincent Le Chevalier · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

Merv Cannon · Posted: Mon 25 Jun, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Bucklers' handles

quote]Thanks Merv, I think I understand what you mean... It is indeed highly possible that I try to see too much in these drawings. I guess what struck me most is that in the assembly you describe, the handle bar would not necessarily reach the rim of the buckler as is shown.
In other words, if I was drawing what I think you describe, it would not look like what is drawn in the manuscripts, even if I omitted rivets or the details of the shape. On the other hand, I'm obviously not a medieval artist Razz

Regards[/quote]

Vincent.........Its hard to find photos of the rear side of original Bucklers, but here's one I found from the Wallace Collection. You can see that it resembles the rear of a Viking type shield. Of course that doesnt mean that it was necessarily typical, but just that it survived. It does resemble several in manuscripts, however.
Cheers

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

I suspect that the images depict round bars that are hammered flat at the ends to facilitate the rivets. The reason you don't see this often in modern bucklers is because not too many people forge their bucklers these days.