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Which of the Swiss Daggers pictured below are you most likely to add to your kit?
A 1480c. Alpine Dagger
57%
 57%  [ 44 ]
B 1520c. Swiss Dagger
22%
 22%  [ 17 ]
C 1550c. Swiss Holbein Dagger
20%
 20%  [ 16 ]
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Arms & Armor March Highlight and a Query         Reply with quote




March Highlight Item from Arms & Armor




We will be having a group Highlight this month. It will be a dagger, scabbard and shipping included for 170.00 on any of our crosshilted daggers in stock. Here are the pieces that are currently waiting for new homes.

#062 Medici Dagger
#063 Tudor Dagger
#130 Crusader Dagger
#216 Aunlaz Dagger
#225 Knightly Dagger

Due to some hiccups this morning the ARMS & ARMOR News page does not have the update yet but will soon so check there for all the details.

Also some new pieces on the Muster page as well



Here are some new pieces we are considering adding to our line. We made these as tests to see how we liked the styles and feel of the pieces as well as the process. We thought if would be an interesting idea to offer them up on the muster page but also run a survey to see what those interested in these types of daggers would be most likely to add to their armoury.

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Just thought I would add a bit of detail. The dagger A is based on one from the Northern area of modern Italy. The grip is a ovoid shape with a smooth unfaceted surface. Dagger B has a bit more of a flatten ovoid shape but still does not have corners in the shape. The cross section could be almost rectangular in description. The C dagger has the faceted hexagon shape with the two edges aligned with the sides being very narrow and the four other facets being the keeled shape visible in the picture. B and C are both based on daggers from the area of modern Switzerland but of course could have been made in that region described in the description on the muster page.


Have a great spring from A&A Inc.


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Whoa, great stuff, Craig! I love the two handed katzbalger on the Muster page! And I may take advantage of this deal to get myself a dagger and sheath...

I think adding the "Holbein" daggers to the main line is a great idea. Personally, of all three of your designs pictured, I think dagger "A" should be the one you put in your regular lineup. There are a few mass produced ones of similar style (typically for WWII reenactors) that are much closer to the C & D designs, so A would be more unique to you guys.

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar, 2010 8:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I voted for "A", since it's kind of unique. Also, I emailed you about purchasing it Big Grin

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I couldn't help it, those Swiss daggers are beautiful. I ordered one for myself.
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PostPosted: Fri 19 Mar, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon of "they all look great but I like A"! Big Grin
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I´m gonna have to vote C...but B is nice too...can I vote three times?
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I really like C a lot. The design is very nice and visually appealing.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I just came back from the Baltimore Antique Arms Show, and I got to pick up an antique dagger that was almost exactly like the "A" dagger above. The whole thing's very corroded, and the grip had long since deteriorated, but the shape of the blade and the guard was nearly identical. Now I think A&A's version is even cooler. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar, 2010 7:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I vote for the "A" model to be included in the regular production line.

As a side note, I must say that the two handed Katzbalger on the muster page is pretty awesome. I deeply envy whoever ordered it.

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Mar, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bill Grandy wrote:
I think dagger "A" should be the one you put in your regular lineup. There are a few mass produced ones of similar style (typically for WWII reenactors) that are much closer to the C & D designs, so A would be more unique to you guys.


Exactly ... and I'm guessing there might be more of us out here who are interested in 15th C gear than 16th ... many of the main re-enactment groups in Europe are 15th C as well ...

It would be great to have something that is traceably 15th C, rather than 'shake'n'bake fakin it' with pieces that are more clearly 16th C.

A all the way!
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Mar, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So Craig, I've decided that you are deliberately trying to drive me nuts. I've been saving money for an extra special (and pricey) custom piece, and I'm getting close to having the finances together. I've managed to avoid the temptation to purchase one of your stock pieces although that's bad enough, but then you are continually bringing out new items which are absolutely killing me. It's a good thing I didn't log in here until after the two handed katzbalger was sold, or I would have succumbed and purchased it for sure.

Nice job on the "Holbein" style daggers. If I was going to pick just one I'd probably go with C since to my mind it's more stereotypical of the type.

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Russ Ellis wrote:


Nice job on the "Holbein" style daggers. If I was going to pick just one I'd probably go with C since to my mind it's more stereotypical of the type.


Yes but why buy just one. Wink C and A maybe since C is very typical of the evolved type and A seems to be older and closer to the Baselard types and being " less typical " also makes it more or at least equally appealing. Wink Razz Big Grin Cool

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Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Russ Ellis wrote:


Nice job on the "Holbein" style daggers. If I was going to pick just one I'd probably go with C since to my mind it's more stereotypical of the type.


Yes but why buy just one. Wink C and A maybe since C is very typical of the evolved type and A seems to be older and closer to the Baselard types and being " less typical " also makes it more or at least equally appealing. Wink Razz Big Grin Cool


Jean that's mean...just plain mean, to do that to Russ!! Big Grin Eek! Big Grin

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject: A&A Info and comment         Reply with quote

Thank you guys for all the great feedback. It is interesting to hear the comments about the daggers and see what people gravitate towards.

I think we where leaning towards the 15th C dagger (A) ourselves so it is good to see there is appreciation of the type. This of course does not mean we wouldn't be open and happy to anyone needing something along the lines of B and C
Happy

That of course is to drive Russ nuts Eek!

I have to agree with Jean as well that if you pick two or three items it makes the choice easier.

Mark and Hugo I agree that sometimes the 15th C. gets a bit of a pass over by some. It is such a dynamic period of history and one of the most interesting in weapons and armor.

Very interesting Bill that you came across a dagger of the same form, DIdn't take a picture did you? Happy The early forms of this style are interesting. The transition from the classic capital I baselard to the different forms it acquired later.

Interested to hear others comments as well and hope all are having a good spring.

Craig

PS- C is still looking for a home Happy
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Craig, that's great news about you leaning towards A. Now, if you need a little extra nudge at all, then if you *ahem* just happened to offer a pre-production discount to the good folks here, from the comments above, it sounds like a lot of us would take you up on it ... could be a way to lock in some initial orders and cover some of your R&D costs, etc.

Just a thought. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Craig I would also consider the option of making the (a) in a scaled up version half way from large dagger to short sword with a blade between 15" to 20 " , this could be a standard version although I guess anyone could order a fully custom version in whatever historical size they might want I also guess that a production version might be a little cheaper and more readily available.

In any case the regular sized version is O.K. for the medium compact sized daggers with blade between 8" to 12".

It's really good to see rarely produced or reproduced weapons being made.

Oh, you might also consider making an " eared dagger " as these are also rather rare as reproductions.

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Can I just say that you all are an evil influence and contributing to the deliquency of a poor scabbard maker / systems engineer? Razz
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I'm just disappointed that there wasn't an "all of the above" option! Big Grin
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Steve Maly wrote:
I'm just disappointed that there wasn't an "all of the above" option! Big Grin


Even more cruel to Russ ! Yes buy them all, buy more than one of each ..... Razz Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Mar, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Steve Maly wrote:
I'm just disappointed that there wasn't an "all of the above" option! Big Grin


Oh, but there was, there was!:

Craig Johnson wrote:
I think we where leaning towards the 15th C dagger (A) ourselves so it is good to see there is appreciation of the type. This of course does not mean we wouldn't be open and happy to anyone needing something along the lines of B and C
Happy


Or do you mean just voting, not purchasing, Steve? Big Grin

Craig: Any idea on the release date for these? We have a major Living History event in my neck of the woods in early July ... would love for 'A' to make a debut there ... Happy
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