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Stanley B. Kittrell
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There are no markings on it at all. The edge looks like someone took an electric grinder to it. Workmanship is poor. I'm thinking that it's a forgery or replica of some type of short sword that's been artificially aged. Thanks for any help you can give me.
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Sam Gordon Campbell
Location: Australia. Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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I'm sure as heck no scholar, but that looks (to me) more like a bayonet rather than a shortsword per se.
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Stanley B. Kittrell
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| Sam Gordon Campbell wrote: | | I'm sure as heck no scholar, but that looks (to me) more like a bayonet rather than a shortsword per se. |
It's not a bayonet. There's no way to attach it to a rifle. There are no markings at all on the blade either. I've also looked under the handle for marks, but there aren't any. I'm thinking that it's an artificially aged replica of some type of short sword.
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M. Eversberg II
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This space for rent or lease.
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Christopher Gregg
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I believe this is probably a South American (Argentine, perhaps), military or police short sword, circa late 19th century, early 20th century. I see these on eBay all the time. They usually go for around $99 - $250, depending on the rarity. They almost always look about this level of patination.
Christopher Gregg
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Jonathan Hopkins
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It is an infantry or artillery sidearm of the late 19th century or early 20th century. It is not a bayonet. Are there any markings on it that might indicate a place of manufacture?
Jonathan
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Stanley B. Kittrell
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| Jonathan Hopkins wrote: | It is an infantry or artillery sidearm of the late 19th century or early 20th century. It is not a bayonet. Are there any markings on it that might indicate a place of manufacture?
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There are no markings that I can find at all, even under the handle. The blade is slightly "wasp waisted". I originally though that whoever took the grinder to the edge had taken too much metal off of the blade hear the guard, but I saw a slightly similar artillery sword that was wasp waisted. I've examined every square inch of this blade with a magnifier and I can find no markings at all. I sure would like to know where it came from for sure though. The workmaship on the handle anyway is pretty rough. Also it looks like somebody brushed or cleaned the blade near the guard to try to find markings. Looks good hanging on my wall though.
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Stanley B. Kittrell
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| Christopher Gregg wrote: | | I believe this is probably a South American (Argentine, perhaps), military or police short sword, circa late 19th century, early 20th century. I see these on eBay all the time. They usually go for around $99 - $250, depending on the rarity. They almost always look about this level of patination. |
I googled Argentine short sword (military and police), but the ones on ebay and other sights are not like this one. They have a different style guard or hilt and appear to be of better quality. Those were model 1909 though and maybe this one is earlier or later in manufacture
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Romulus Stoica
Location: Hunedoara, Transylvania, Romania Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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This looks somehow similar to the austrian artilery short sword for soldiers but has a slightly different guard.
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