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Craig Johnson
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 Posted: Tue 07 Mar, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: A&A March Highlight Item |
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Best of March to all from A&A
This was discussed in another thread but as it was imbedded in a previous discussion some folks had missed it, one of whom I just talked to and suggested I do a separate post to make sure everyone caught the opportunity. Sorry if we missed you first time around.
The Highlight item for March is the #003 Spiked Flail, special price of 180.00 and s/h of 28.00
Best To ALL from A&A Inc.
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Russ Ellis
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Sean Flynt
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Russ Ellis
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I really want to, but I keep telling myself I'm holding out for a Rondel Dagger from them. Besides I owe Jesse Frank a sizable sum of money for a project... Maybe I can sell something...
TRITONWORKS Custom Scabbards
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Sean Flynt
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Bill Grandy
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I'm in the same boat, Sean. That's a great price, and I'm sorely tempted... but alas, need to save the money for the time being.
But man, that thing is cool!
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Russ Ellis
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| Sean Flynt wrote: | If you buy it now, you'll be saving money!
I'm sorry...I don't mean to goad you into an impulse buy.  I just happen to think this is a very attractive flail at a very attractive price. If I were not in the middle of a self-imposed purchase moratorium, I'd be very, very tempted to make this my first A&A piece. |
LOL you sir are without mercy. I KNEW this item of the month thing that A&A is doing was going to be a bad thing for me. The flail was not even on the horizon for the foreseable future and now I'm scratching my head trying to figure out a way to pay for it. I've still got most of a month... man man man... 
TRITONWORKS Custom Scabbards
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Andy Bain
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I'd love to grab this one as well. Unfortunately flails are illegal up here in Canada. <Sigh> It's possible I might own one flail from Lutel that snuck through customs as 'decorative ironwork'. That might have been back in the day before I knew it was a prohibited weapon. I wouldn't want to take a chance and hope for lightning to strike twice though.
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Steve Grisetti
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That is a really nice looking piece, and an attractive price. But I would probably injure myself very seriously with a flail, so I'll have to pass on this one. I will watch out for a mace, though.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Addison C. de Lisle
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | I'm in the same boat, Sean. That's a great price, and I'm sorely tempted... but alas, need to save the money for the time being.
But man, that thing is cool! |
I am also in this boat. Hope it doesn't sink
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Bob Burns
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I received my flail today and it's excellent, I really like the way it handles. I took it to some thick folded cardboard that had been compressed together resulting in about 10 inches thickness all strapped together with plastic banding and proceeded to "flail" away at it, WOW you want to talk about inflicting incredible damage, this flail is the "toy" to do it with!
I mean this flail just plain gouged the hell out of this strapped cardboard, tore it to oblivion! I gotta say I love it and I have the matching mace. This is a fun one to own!
Having lotsa fun with this Flail!
Bob
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Kenton Spaulding
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Congrats Bob, don't kill yourself !
Kenton
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Bob Burns
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 Kenton, no need to worry, I have years of practice with other kinds of weapons to know enough to respect what a flail could do! That and I was a cabinet maker for 7 years using 5 horse 3 phase table saws on a daily basis. Yep, you gotta always respect a weapon or machinery!
I did get a good laugh! Thanks!
Bob
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Jean Thibodeau
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One good thing is that the chain is fairly short limiting the range the head will go out of control is limited. I would always hold the flail low enough that the spiked ball can't hit your own hand no matter how out of control it gets if you make a mistake or whatever it decides to do bouncing off a target.
Used to have a cheap decorators version around 1970 before somebody in government decided to make these prohibited up here. 
So if I survived that decade playing with one of these, with no training, it means that I was either gifted, incredibly lucky or real careful always keeping the thing under control. 
With your martial arts experience, Bob, I think you know how to curb your enthusiasm ! ( And you do have that in large amounts!  )
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Bob Burns
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Jean, yeah you got me there for sure  Always a danger is over confidence, which makes me think of the owner of a Danish cabinet shop where I once worked years ago, he had a scar on his index finger from where he'd been running wood through a table saw piece after piece pretty fast. This guy was a real master cabinet maker if I ever saw one. Over confidence and too much enthusiasm can be a very dangerous mix!
Thanks, this is so true!
Bob
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Jean Thibodeau
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Bob:
I have an uncle who cut his hand length wise decades ago on some sort of table saw. ( He was a teacher at a trade school I think ) This was years ago and I am out of touch with that side of the family, so I may have the details wrong as I was just a little kid when he would show us the scar.
Just goes to show what a second of inattention can do. 
I assume it was lengthways because around 1960 they weren't that good at micro surgery and reattaching cut off body parts !
Since he still had al his fingers I would guess the blade cut between a couple of fingers into the palm and maybe close to the wrist ! In any case, the idea sounds pretty gruesome.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Bob Burns
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To get back to the subject matter of this thread, the chain is short enough on the flail to make it quite easy to control, I really would advise to not be afraid to have some fun with this wonderful bludgeon! All the chain links have a very solid weld on them and the steel ball of spikes is thoroughly welded as well. When holding the flail at the handle there really is no way to hit that hand with the "business end" of it. As with many things, the key to the striking with the flail is to deliver through and not pull back, thereby letting the flail do what it was meant to do. Much the same as following through a swing with a baseball bat at a pitch, only in a different motion as you would not want to hit your ribcage with this lil baby!
But in my opinion, there is really no reason to be afraid of it, so if indeed you find this piece attractive, I say "Go For It"!
My Sword Salute of Respect to All
Bob
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Bob Burns wrote: | To get back to the subject matter of this thread, the chain is short enough on the flail to make it quite easy to control, I really would advise to not be afraid to have some fun with this wonderful bludgeon! All the chain links have a very solid weld on them and the steel ball of spikes is thoroughly welded as well. When holding the flail at the handle there really is no way to hit that hand with the "business end" of it. As with many things, the key to the striking with the flail is to deliver through and not pull back, thereby letting the flail do what it was meant to do. Much the same as following through a swing with a baseball bat at a pitch, only in a different motion as you would not want to hit your ribcage with this lil baby!
But in my opinion, there is really no reason to be afraid of it, so if indeed you find this piece attractive, I say "Go For It"!
My Sword Salute of Respect to All
Bob |
Bob: I fully agree with you that one blow at a time there is little risk of hitting one's self. The only thing I can see being dangerous would be a series of quick strikes in a fast combination were one could have control problems when redirecting from one arc to another. Also only if one starts swinging in a completely out of control way, something one shouldn't do with any dangerous object.
Oh, Bob, I assume that I'm not telling you anything you don't know: Just mentioning it for the sake of people who have never handled one of these.
One nice thing is that one can swing at full maximum power without feeling any shock to the hand when the head strikes the target as no vibration or energy is reflected back to the hand through the chain as opposed to the solid shaft of the spike mace. 
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Kenton Spaulding
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I'm excited to announce that it is April (hopefully I will have birthday money pouring in like water). What do you have for me this month Craig?
Best wishes to the folks at Arms and Armor,
Kenton
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Bob Burns
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Oh by the way, I got the matching mace last summer! What a cute matching bludgeon set!
Bob
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