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J. Nicolaysen
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Mark Millman
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Posted: Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Dear J. Nicolaysen,
Albion offered, if I recall correctly, three bronze swords. You mention the Urnfield Sword; and there were also two Type G Mycenaean swords. Matt Amt, who posts here from time to time, shows them on his Bronze-Age re-enacting Weapons page, about halfway down the page. He gives several views of the swords, both as they came from Albion and as he altered them for greater accuracy. I'm not sure whether they count as part of the First Generation line, as they were made for Albion by International Steelcrafts in India rather than in-house by Albion. More specifically, Albion provided wooden models from which International Steelcrafts made molds and did the bronze casting. They're Albion designs, so I suppose they probably do count as First Gen swords if the chronology is right.
I used to have an Urnfield myself, but I may have given it to a friend around a decade ago. If I didn't give it away and can find it I'll try to get you some photos.
I hope this proves helpful.
Best,
Mark Millman
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Arne G.
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Posted: Sat 04 Apr, 2020 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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There was also an Anglo Saxon Invader(?) and a Norse Raider(?), the latter of which was a single edged blade. Scrounged some pix here:
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Anglo Saxon Invader
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Arne G.
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Posted: Sat 04 Apr, 2020 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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There was also an earlier version of the La Tene sword, which had a much more interesting hilt than the later version. It is the middle sword in picture:
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J. Nicolaysen
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Posted: Sun 05 Apr, 2020 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys! This is a great start. I'd seen Matthew's page before but I didn't know the other bronze swords were of the same manufacturing time period for Albion. And Arne, great find on those, never heard or saw them before!
Well, I'm sure there might be a few more models out there, or at least better photos of some of the ones I posted but this really helps.
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Nathan Robinson
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Posted: Sun 05 Apr, 2020 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Remember, this line of swords was not originally called "First Generation." They were retroactively named that after Albion came out with the "Next Generation" line. Pretty sure they were simply known as "Albion Mark" swords and some as "Albion Mark Hand Forged" swords.
Here is an Albion "Crecy" and "Riding Sword".
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Albion first generation "Crecy" and "Riding Sword"
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Nathan Robinson
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Nathan Robinson
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Nathan Robinson
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Nathan Robinson
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J. Nicolaysen
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Posted: Sun 05 Apr, 2020 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Nathan, that is really awesome! I appreciate all of that.
I actually didn't know that the First Gen was named retroactively, but that makes perfect sense. At the time I was more interested in Japanese swords, so the industry-impacting reveal of the Next Gen was pretty peripheral to me. Still there are probably four or five models of the "first gen" I wish I could snag.
Great resource for posterity, thanks again
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John Dunn
Location: Frankfort, KY Joined: 15 Apr 2013
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Posted: Sun 05 Apr, 2020 5:38 pm Post subject: Albion 1st gen |
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I like the orleans
Wish I could find one.
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Jeremy V. Krause
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Posted: Mon 06 Apr, 2020 7:16 am Post subject: |
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It's cool to see how much better the swords of the Next Generation look than the Albion Mark swords.
Sword design and authenticity has really moved forward in the past 15 years.
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Luka Borscak
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Posted: Mon 06 Apr, 2020 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy V. Krause wrote: | It's cool to see how much better the swords of the Next Generation look than the Albion Mark swords.
Sword design and authenticity has really moved forward in the past 15 years. |
True! Although I like the old Crecy more.
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Roger Hooper
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Mon 06 Apr, 2020 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I need to post pics of some of my early Albions. Most of them actually have Angus Trim-made blades. My Kragehul sword is very early production, with a single-fuller blade by Angus Trim and white bone hilt inserts instead of wood. My early La Tene is with the spiraled bone grip, like the other one pictured, and my spatha has a different grip as well. I also have two early gladii -- a Pompeii and Fulham -- with Angus Trim blades and an early Mainz with an Albion-made blade.
David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
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J. Nicolaysen
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Tim Lison
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Posted: Mon 06 Apr, 2020 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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The Kragehul Bog sword was my first sword. It was really well done. I still miss it a little...
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Tue 07 Apr, 2020 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Here's a pic of my very early Kragehul Bog sword...
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David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
Now available on Amazon: Franklin Posner's "Suburban Vampire: A Tale of the Human Condition -- With Vampires" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N7Y591
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David Wilson
Location: In a van down by the river Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Posted: Tue 07 Apr, 2020 12:16 am Post subject: |
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And here is the spatha...
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David K. Wilson, Jr.
Laird of Glencoe
Now available on Amazon: Franklin Posner's "Suburban Vampire: A Tale of the Human Condition -- With Vampires" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072N7Y591
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