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John Willow





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PostPosted: Thu 15 Oct, 2020 11:28 am    Post subject: Descriptions of unknown types of armour.         Reply with quote

Hello everyone! I read about helmets and fond next names of types of ancient helmets. Helmet (description): Cap (conical or round, with neck-, nose-, cheek- and/or spectacle guard and/or cheek plates) and Sun Hat (Brimmed cap). But no imagines there. Google shows a lot of helmets, but I'm not sure about those variations. Maybe can someone send me pictures of these helmets, please? It's really need help with it. I have no idea.

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Anthony Clipsom




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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct, 2020 12:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What time period do the helmets belong to John? That may help someone ID them.
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John Willow





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PostPosted: Fri 16 Oct, 2020 5:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anthony Clipsom wrote:
What time period do the helmets belong to John? That may help someone ID them.


I think it's A.D. 800 (Viking time) or the Medieval period. Something like this.
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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2020 4:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Edge and Paddock, "Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight", pp.186-87 has a good outline of the various helmets during this time. Nice clean sketches.
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Anthony Clipsom




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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2020 5:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Helmet (description): Cap (conical or round, with neck-, nose-, cheek- and/or spectacle guard and/or cheek plates)


Though a bit earlier than 800 (570-790), this sounds like a Vendel-type helmet




The sun hat sounds like a form of kettlehat but sun hats vary so much in style that its hard to be specific.

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Henry O.





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PostPosted: Sat 17 Oct, 2020 2:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is there a name for that helmet type in carolingian art that kinda looks like a morion?
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John Willow





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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2020 4:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Anthony Clipsom wrote:
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Helmet (description): Cap (conical or round, with neck-, nose-, cheek- and/or spectacle guard and/or cheek plates)


Though a bit earlier than 800 (570-790), this sounds like a Vendel-type helmet

The sun hat sounds like a form of kettlehat but sun hats vary so much in style that its hard to be specific.


Oh! Thank you so much! Now it's more clear for me! I was really confused when I have read about sun hats first time. But what's about a type of helmets like a brimmed cap?
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John Willow





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PostPosted: Sun 18 Oct, 2020 5:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan Howard wrote:
Edge and Paddock, "Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight", pp.186-87 has a good outline of the various helmets during this time. Nice clean sketches.


Okay, I got it. It's an amazing stuff. Thank you!
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