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Boris R.





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PostPosted: Tue 30 Apr, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: looking for any info on the "Italian visor from Negropo         Reply with quote

I am searching basically any info on this visor, from which book is the picture with inscription, is it a real 15. century piece, if so would it be fastened to bascinet, sallet, or some other type of helmet, also is it in a museum (which one), private collection, auction house, etc...

Any help would be appreciated



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PostPosted: Tue 30 Apr, 2013 8:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

another similar visor, I think the photo was taken in a Bulgarian museum, but could be wrong


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PostPosted: Tue 30 Apr, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That italian visor is quite intimidating
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PostPosted: Wed 01 May, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Boris R. wrote:
another similar visor, I think the photo was taken in a Bulgarian museum, but could be wrong


Boris, you are not wrong!
The visor is in the Museum of Kardzali.

Unfortunately, it's classified wrongly - as an artifact from the Antiquity Worried . Otherwise, our re-enactors' assessment for its dating is about 1350-1370 - second half of the 14. C

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PostPosted: Wed 01 May, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The strange thing is that this visor has no breath holes, and that the eye slots seem to offer a limited view (unlike other bascinet visors where they are longer and have holes on the base).
Any thought? Maybe an unfinished piece of equipment?

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PostPosted: Wed 01 May, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The more I watch this visor, the more it reminds me of this transitional helmet from ending of the 15.century


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PostPosted: Tue 07 Nov, 2017 8:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Visor for "Venetian" Great Bascinet
Philadelphia Museum of Art, 1420-1440



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Boris R.





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PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

thanks Edoardo! that is exactly what I was looking for
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