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Harry Marinakis
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 Posted: Sun 20 Aug, 2017 3:14 pm Post subject: Please help identify two weapons |
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I saw a couple of interesting weapons in the illuminated manuscripts, but not sure what they are.
Any ideas?
Top: what type of dagger is this? Is that a rondel?
199v
UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 339 Parzival
Germany AD 1443-1446
Bottom: Is this a knife? (on the right)
382v
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/search/index?&keywords=19789&sort=mainTitle_ns+asc
Germany AD 1445
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Rick F
Location: England, UK Joined: 15 Jun 2017
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| Posted: Sun 20 Aug, 2017 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm certainly no expert, but the top one looks like a rondel to me, and the date is right.
The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.
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Mark Moore
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The top is definitely a dagger of some sort, but I've never seen a rondel with a spiked pommel.  Not to say there never was such. The bottom, I concur , looks like a short-shafted footman's flanged mace. I wouldn't mind having a replica of either one...or both.  ....McM
''Life is like a box of chocolates...'' --- F. Gump
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Fisher Lobdell
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| Posted: Sun 20 Aug, 2017 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't bat an eye at the first one, simply a rondel with a pommel. But the second looks like a sort of flanged (or not...) mace with a strange shaft.
And a wax sealed letter...
"Absence of evidence is not necessarily the evedence of Absence." Ewart Oakeshotte.
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Matthew Amt
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| Posted: Sun 20 Aug, 2017 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Rick F wrote: | | The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind. |
Which means the item in question is a sonic screw driver...
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Luka Borscak
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| Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Matthew Amt wrote: | | Rick F wrote: | | The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind. |
Which means the item in question is a sonic screw driver... |
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Kirk B.
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| Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Rick F wrote: | I'm certainly no expert, but the top one looks like a rondel to me, and the date is right.
The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind. |
They didn’t have disposable cameras back then, that is clearly a pack of Lucky Strikes...
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Harry Marinakis
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| Posted: Mon 21 Aug, 2017 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Rick F wrote: | | But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind. |
My thoughts exactly
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This is a standard topic