Please help identify two weapons
I saw a couple of interesting weapons in the illuminated manuscripts, but not sure what they are.

Any ideas?

Top: what type of dagger is this? Is that a rondel?
199v
UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 339 Parzival
Germany AD 1443-1446

Bottom: Is this a knife? (on the right)
382v
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/search/index?&keywords=19789&sort=mainTitle_ns+asc
Germany AD 1445


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I'm certainly no expert, but the top one looks like a rondel to me, and the date is right.

The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.
The top is definitely a dagger of some sort, but I've never seen a rondel with a spiked pommel. :wtf: Not to say there never was such. The bottom, I concur , looks like a short-shafted footman's flanged mace. I wouldn't mind having a replica of either one...or both. :D ....McM
I wouldn't bat an eye at the first one, simply a rondel with a pommel. But the second looks like a sort of flanged (or not...) mace with a strange shaft.

And a wax sealed letter...
Rick F wrote:
The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.


Which means the item in question is a sonic screw driver...
Matthew Amt wrote:
Rick F wrote:
The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.


Which means the item in question is a sonic screw driver...


:lol:
Rick F wrote:
I'm certainly no expert, but the top one looks like a rondel to me, and the date is right.

The bottom one... looks more like a flanged footman's mace. But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.


They didn’t have disposable cameras back then, that is clearly a pack of Lucky Strikes...
Rick F wrote:
But then the object that looks like it's being handed over looks like a disposable camera to my mind.

My thoughts exactly

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