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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Seeking advice on buying m6 first chainmail         Reply with quote

Hi

Recently I've been saving up money to buy my first chainmail armor. I have been reading old myArmoury posts regarding the maille pattern, and it seems most people buys the riveted ones. The thing is those wedge riveted mail cost around 400 bucks. My question is, do maille have to be riveted in order to be functional? What about the ones with riveted armpit and the rest being butted? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Ed
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Ian Hutchison




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Seeking advice on buying m6 first chainmail         Reply with quote

Edward Lee wrote:
Hi

Recently I've been saving up money to buy my first chainmail armor. I have been reading old myArmoury posts regarding the maille pattern, and it seems most people buys the riveted ones. The thing is those wedge riveted mail cost around 400 bucks. My question is, do maille have to be riveted in order to be functional? What about the ones with riveted armpit and the rest being butted? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Ed


What do you mean by functional?

It certainly isn't as strong as riveted maille but if you're only using it for costume, then it doesn't really matter.

As far as historical accuracy is concerned, there is no accurate production maille, only 'less inaccurate' vs 'more inaccurate'.

'We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose.' - Adrian Carton de Wiart
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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ian


By functional I meant stuff lime stopping a knife slash and sword slash, not expecting it to stop a spear stab or wnything with a lot of force.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 2:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Some kinds of butted mail can stop a knife thrust. Mail made from very small links or made from hardened steel can do this, but these will cost more than you seem to want to spend. You might be able to get a short sleeved shirt for less than $400. Otherwise your only solution is to make it yourself.
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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 3:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What about this one? http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...+%2D+Large

compare to
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...+%2D+Large

Is the riveting a huge difference? Thanks.
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Ian Hutchison




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 3:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Edward,

If you are talking about blunt weapons, it will be your gambeson doing most of the protecting/cushioning. The maille will play a much lesser role. In such a case, historical accuracy notwithstanding, riveted maille would be fine. Just be aware that it may be more prone to damage than riveted.

If you mean to fend off real sharps, I would suggest a modern stab vest as more practical option. They can be had for around the same price.


Edit: you may want to check out www.ringmesh.com I think they are using the same stuff divers/butchers use. It may serve and is very inexpensive. Its welded stainless with the following ring dimensions:
Small: 0.150" Outside Ring Diameter / 0.021" Wire Diameter
Large: 0.210" Outside Ring Diameter / .025" Wire Diameter

'We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose.' - Adrian Carton de Wiart


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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 3:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Ian, I appreciate you taking your time to reply.
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a cool link to ringmesh.com, Ian. I may have to check into them further myself!...........McM
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Edward Lee




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

About that ringmesh, I think their stuff is very light, like some sort of modern mithril. I'm not sure if it's the same as they claim, but their sizes are rather small.

Ed

P.S Got like $190 dollars store credit from KoA today, and bought the wedge rivet chainmail at half of the price!! Laughing Out Loud
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