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Brian la Zouche




Location: England
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Dec, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: did 14th Century pavises differ from 15th century ones ?         Reply with quote

the title says it all,
I'm looking to construct a crossbow mans pavise at the time of Crecy, the very few illustrations and photos from museums are not awfully clear, there is a fantastic thread on 15thC pavises but i have serious doubts that mid 14thc ones were constructed to the same level, museum ones show the few 14thc ones to be a lot less decrotive than 15thc ones, also the centre gully seems to be none exsistant on 14thc one BUT it is hard to really confirm if this is correct or not

i have tried a few places for info but all i get quoted back are referances to 15thc ones

any thoughts/ideas/ knowledge/ images/ etc that anyone can pass on would be very welcome
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Brian la Zouche




Location: England
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

just to clear things up. i am not seeking to justify a flat faced one,, that is only what i suspect, if genuine evidance shows mid 14thc ones to have gullys thats great Happy

i just do not want to ASSUME that mid/late 15c looked like they did 100 -150 years earlier
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Bartek Strojek




Location: Poland
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec, 2012 2:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This guy here shows his reconstruction of Prussian/Masovian early pavise with sources and all - it's all in polish, though, dunno how useful Google Translate would be:


http://dregowia.blogspot.com/2010/08/pawez-pr...proba.html


http://dregowia.blogspot.com/2011/05/test-wyt...awezy.html
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Brian la Zouche




Location: England
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Dec, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

yes thats quite interesting, seems to referanced to 13th century, with a gully, so it does lend some credance that if construction with a centre gully was in the 13th and 15th, then probby was also for the 14th

ty more such referances still welcomed
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