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Marcos Cantu





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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Does anyone know if there is any evidence of two-handed swords during the La Tene period?
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Shane Allee
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PostPosted: Fri 27 Jun, 2008 6:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nothing to suggest that there were as of yet. At one time there was a chance that one of the swords found at Port might be, but upon further research it turns out that it was simply a mistake with some of the numbers listed.

Shane
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Simon Schmidt





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PostPosted: Wed 06 Aug, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello all, I'm new here and rather a loan, too I guess.
I have a question: How does a 6th century AD Celtic sword look like. Are there any at all?

I'm doing this research for a painting I'm going to do. It would be great if someone could help me out. Thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Thu 07 Aug, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmm...I'm tempted to say that the formerly Celtic regions of Europe would mostly have been heavily influenced by the Germanic peoples, so their swords would be very similar to the Romano-German spatha--say, a less ornate form of the replica reviewed here:

http://www.myArmoury.com/review_alb_mig.html

Of course, that might not apply to Britain or Ireland....
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PostPosted: Fri 08 Aug, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Simon Schmidt wrote:
Hello all, I'm new here and rather a loan, too I guess.
I have a question: How does a 6th century AD Celtic sword look like. Are there any at all?

I'm doing this research for a painting I'm going to do. It would be great if someone could help me out. Thanks a lot!
I wouldn't call anyone in the 6th century Celtic, considering the Romans pretty much ended the celtic cultures, and what was originally Celtic is rather vague to start with (and still a great matter of debate amongst archeologists). It would be better to ask for 6th century swords of a specific region.
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Lukas Kieferling




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PostPosted: Sun 28 Sep, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I found an interesting analogy related to Liebau sword. It is Drazice near Tabor, Czech Republic, scabbard, the same construction ( bronze front over back iron) and similar type of decoration (nr 3 on drawing). It is possible both swords were forged in the same place. The most interesting part is a big bronze (?) chape, early A type, missing in Liebau sword . By the way, there is a several places in La Tene culture range called "Liebau" : some in Czech, Germany, one in Poland. I still have no idea which one place is correct, Lubava, Czech Republic may be my favorite but maybe I'm wrong.


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Lukas Kieferling




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PostPosted: Fri 10 Apr, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I found in old Jan Filip's book some more pics of Drazice scabbard and grave goods as a context
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Apr, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is anyone aware of any metallograhic tests ever being conducted on the blade of the Kirkburn Sword? I am curious as to how the blade was constructed.

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Allen

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Lukasz Papaj




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PostPosted: Tue 16 Nov, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Little thread necromancy, but think it belongs here:

Celtic sword found during forest cutting near Beszowa in Poland:


More photos: http://kielce.gazeta.pl/kielce/51,35255,8665809.html?i=0
Link to original text (in polish)
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Kevin P Molloy




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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Irish iron age swords         Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me the longest iron age, pre-viking sword found in Ireland to date?
Kevin Patrick Molloy
"The Prince of Firceall of the Ancient Sword is O'Molloy of the Freeborn Name"... O'Dugain(d.1372AD)
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan, 2011 5:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

@Lukasz

What a wonderful find. I do not read Polish unfortunately. Celtic swords are a love of mine and I wish this article was able to be translated into English. Thank you for bringing this back from the dead.

iaq source
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Kirk Lee Spencer




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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeff Jackson wrote:
@Lukasz

...I wish this article was able to be translated into English....



Hey Jeff...

Let me introduce you to the wonders of Google Translate....

Go to the website. Go to the explorer box at the top of the page. Copy everything in it. Go to Google. Click on the little arrow to the right of "more" at the top of the page. Go down the list and click on "translate." Set the languages and the paste the info you copied in to the text box. It will show a link to the webpage translated to the right of the box. Click on this and it will take you to the webpage... translated.

I have done this for the wonder article you referenced... Here it is.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/transl..._uT0zJJ4Lg

Hope this helps...

ks

Two swords
Lit in Eden’s flame
One of iron and one of ink
To place within a bloody hand
One of God or one of man
Our souls to one of
Two eternities
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for this post. I have it in my favs so I can keep up with the updates. Looks like a great discovery and seems to have the ogee guard plate style. Pretty cool Cool
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Google translate is good stuff, although I couldn't help but snicker a bit at "rusty parts of vagina". Cool
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Shane Allee wrote:
Made a trip to Notre Dame today to pick up Navarro again and found a few other books. Here is a little tid bit from Celtic Art In Britain before the Roman Conquest by Ian Stead put out by the British Museum. Saying that it is very similar in look to the Liebau sword would be an understatement. Haven't had a chance to dive into the text as of yet to give any more details though.



Shane


Interesting. It kind of reminds me of the Kirkburn, except more "prongy" instead or "spherical." The handle looks very detailed too, much like the Kirkburn. Pretty neat. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

here's an interesting sword I've found with a pommel cap type I haven't seen yet

http://www.antiques.co.uk/antique/UNIQUE-C200...ARD---RETA

Éirinn go Brách
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