[Russ Ellis]

Alright, so no sooner does one rondel dagger come in then another rondel project begins. I'm having another one made but the only picture I've found of it to this point is here on this very forum, and I need more information. Here's the rondel in question, it's the top one in the picture which I've linked to out of the "The Rondel Dagger" feature on this site.



Does anyone have any other pictures of that particular piece from other angles? Has anyone seen it in person? Do you have any insights as to the cross section of the blade? What material is the "cap" on the "pommel" or upper rondel made of? What form does the "cap" take? The maker and I have suspicions in all of these areas but a lack of concrete knowledge. I know asking about a particular piece is a hard order to fill, but I thought if anyone had that sort of information it would be someone here.

[Jean Thibodeau]

Just a guess but the section of the blade is probably triangular with a flat or slightly rounded or faceted top,

There seems to be a breaking of the corners bevel in the middle top and file work closer to the guard: I'm probably just confirming what you already noticed.

Thickness of blade and distal taper ? I would guess also at a very thick blade at the guard but still fairly thick before the reinforced point, otherwise the reinforced point and main bevel junction would be a weak point that would defeat the purpose of reinforcing the point as a thin section here would bend easily.

If there is a useable edge i.e. sharp or butter knife dull is hard to tell?

[Mathieu Harlaut]

I have read somewhere that this dagger is at the Victoria & Albert Museum in London but not on display. Perhaps you could contact them directly.

If you wish, I have a color photo of the second dagger.

[Russ Ellis]

[Fabrice Cognot]

The grip/roundel material is horn.

As Jean said, the blade is of triangular section, thick but not too thick.

I made a dagger that was a mix of the two in 2006, using boxwood instead of horn, check this thread http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=11087


I alos have quite a lot of color pics of the second dagger if you'd like ;

[Russ Ellis]

[Fabrice Cognot]

[Russ Ellis]

pm sent! Thanks!

[Chad Arnow]

I could be off my rocker, but isn't one or more of those daggers attributed to Maximilian I? Or maybe it's a similar dagger.

[Russ Ellis]

Unfortunately the only attribution I have seen for these two daggers is that they are Burgundian (both on this site and from a book about daggers and fighting knives). That would certainly not preclude them having belonged to Maximillian since he did have a somewhat tumultuous interest in Burgundy????

[Chad Arnow]

[Russ Ellis]

Drat. It would have been cool to have that attribution to the reproduction that's in the works...