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George Hill
Location: Atlanta Ga Joined: 16 May 2005
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 Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: The Atrim 1506 and Liechtenauer. |
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http://angustrimdirect.com/models/swede/swede.htm
I'm considering this sword. I got to handle one, and it's wonderful.
But I'm also a liechtenauer student, and I'm 5'8".
Is a 48 inch sword too long for winding by a 5'8" swordsman? (Not that I actually expect to ever wind with a sharp, but there's a principle here.)
I know we didn't get any sword-to-man ratios from Liechtenauer, but I'd like the opinions of his modern students.
Also, what were the "average" blade lengths used back in the heyday of the Liechtenauer system?
To abandon your shield is the basest of crimes. - --Tacitus on Germania
Last edited by George Hill on Wed 10 Oct, 2007 2:32 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I have moved this topic to the Historic Arms Talk forum.
Please note the description for this forum:
"Discussions of reproduction and authentic historical arms and armour from various cultures and time periods"
Thank you.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Michael Edelson
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Hi George,
You should be fine with that lade length. I'm only an inch taller than you and I use a variety of swords from 35" to 38" (blade length). As that sword is 36", it should work well for you.
New York Historical Fencing Association
www.newyorklongsword.com
Byakkokan Dojo
http://newyorkbattodo.com/
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Hi George,
What Michael said. You should be fine.
Here's the thing: The only measurements Liechtenauer ever gave are that the sword needs to be large enough to be used in two hands, but light enough that it could be used in one hand. And why was he so vague? Most likely because after that, it doesn't matter.
You're asking about winding. Winding can be done with all three wounders: The strike, the thrust, or the slice. Because of this, the length of the sword doesn't matter so much. You do what the distance dictates. If you're further away, you thrust, if you're a little closer, you strike, etc. It isn't until you start getting into extreme lengths that you should worry about the size of the sword.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Glen A Cleeton
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| Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Which wounder winds worst?
I have to ask.
GC
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George Hill
Location: Atlanta Ga Joined: 16 May 2005
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Thanks all. I also note the A&A Fechterspiel is of compartive size.
http://www.arms-n-armor.com/train204.html
My worries are laid at ease. If that sale mentioned in the other thread comes up, I shall order the sword. Or even if it doesn't....
To abandon your shield is the basest of crimes. - --Tacitus on Germania
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Angus Trim
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| George Hill wrote: | Thanks all. I also note the A&A Fechterspiel is of compartive size.
http://www.arms-n-armor.com/train204.html
My worries are laid at ease. If that sale mentioned in the other thread comes up, I shall order the sword. Or even if it doesn't.... |
Hi George
I'm going to do it, but need the time to organize things before I post or ask questions on the manufacturer's forum......
swords are fun
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Thomas Watt
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| Angus Trim wrote: | | I'm going to do it, but need the time to organize things before I post or ask questions on the manufacturer's forum...... |
Excellent. I've been following this and wondering how I could go about placing an order.
Be looking forward to seeing the info posted up...
I detect a new sword in my immediate future, and this one looks very nice!
Have 11 swords, 2 dirks, half a dozen tomahawks and 2 Jeeps - seem to be a magnet for more of all.
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George Hill
Location: Atlanta Ga Joined: 16 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu 11 Oct, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Angus Trim wrote: |
Hi George
I'm going to do it, but need the time to organize things before I post or ask questions on the manufacturer's forum...... |
Hello Angus.
The longer it takes, the more money I'll have saved. What is your generalized guess on timeframe?
To abandon your shield is the basest of crimes. - --Tacitus on Germania
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