The Atrim 1506 and Liechtenauer. -- myArmoury.com

George Hill · Last edited by George Hill on Wed 10 Oct, 2007 2:32 pm; edited 1 time in total

http://angustrimdirect.com/models/swede/swede.htm

I'm considering this sword. I got to handle one, and it's wonderful.

But I'm also a liechtenauer student, and I'm 5'8".

Is a 48 inch sword too long for winding by a 5'8" swordsman? (Not that I actually expect to ever wind with a sharp, but there's a principle here.)

I know we didn't get any sword-to-man ratios from Liechtenauer, but I'd like the opinions of his modern students.

Also, what were the "average" blade lengths used back in the heyday of the Liechtenauer system?

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Michael Edelson · Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 9:46 am Post subject:

Hi George,

You should be fine with that lade length. I'm only an inch taller than you and I use a variety of swords from 35" to 38" (blade length). As that sword is 36", it should work well for you.

Bill Grandy · myArmoury Team

Hi George,
What Michael said. You should be fine.

Here's the thing: The only measurements Liechtenauer ever gave are that the sword needs to be large enough to be used in two hands, but light enough that it could be used in one hand. And why was he so vague? Most likely because after that, it doesn't matter.

You're asking about winding. Winding can be done with all three wounders: The strike, the thrust, or the slice. Because of this, the length of the sword doesn't matter so much. You do what the distance dictates. If you're further away, you thrust, if you're a little closer, you strike, etc. It isn't until you start getting into extreme lengths that you should worry about the size of the sword.

Glen A Cleeton · Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 11:56 am Post subject:

Which wounder winds worst?

I have to ask.

GC

George Hill · Posted: Wed 10 Oct, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject:

Thanks all. I also note the A&A Fechterspiel is of compartive size.
http://www.arms-n-armor.com/train204.html

My worries are laid at ease. If that sale mentioned in the other thread comes up, I shall order the sword. Or even if it doesn't....

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