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Rob Miller
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: looking for information on Koncher,a Russian Sword         Reply with quote

does anyone out there have any pictures or information on a Russian Koncher,a rapier type of sword from the 14th-15th Century.I cannot turn anything up online so far,hoping that someone may be able to help.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe you could try the alternative spellings or the relatives of the term in the other Eastern European languages. The search on the Polish "koncerz" in particular is most likely to yield fruitful results.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: looking for information on Koncher,a Russian Sword         Reply with quote

Rob Miller wrote:
does anyone out there have any pictures or information on a Russian Koncher,a rapier type of sword from the 14th-15th Century.I cannot turn anything up online so far,hoping that someone may be able to help.






This is about the best I could find, looks like it's in Kremlin's armory collection.

According to description, this particular piece was used as a ceremonial weapon and is shorter than the ones used in battle. It also appears it was made in Turkey, although it's not very clear if they talk about this particular piece or the origin of the weapon itself. Apparently it was used to puncture holes through mail when pursuing a fleeing enemy, and was a secondary weapon, sabre being a primary one. Don't know if it's accurate, though.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gene,
thank you so much for those,do you have any links to the pics,so that i can get some more detail?Its for a customer who has the surname Koncher,seems to be a quite obscure style.Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's from this page - most of it in Russian, though. They do have English version of the site but it's rather limited.

http://www.kreml.ru/ru/main/exhibition/visit/...II/hall02/

There's a better picture of konchar there:



It's in the exhibition of Catherine the Ist reign (after 1725 IIRC).
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Mar, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

well,i gave the guy a quote for around £800,which was a shock to him,maybe a hand forged Custom sword at £800 is outrageously expensive Question thank you anyway for your help,much appreciated.
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