[Norlyn C]

All,

I know we have many friends on this board from the Scandinavian countries i thought i would ask some questions. I am intrigued by the weapon known as the Swedish Staff-Sword or svärdstav(i believe). I found some interesting information on it in a book on the Landsknecht soldiers. One of these soldiers , Paul Dolstein, was a Landsknecht around 1500 who encountered this Swedish Polearm during his mercenary work (for King Hans of Denmark) at the siege of Elfsbourg on July, 14th 1502. He also happened to be a literate writer and competent illustrator (of which i am neither). During the siege he mentioned that the 'Swedish Farmers' had crossbows and "good pikes made from swords". He goes on to illustrate a Swedish Pikeman and Staff-sword (?) with 'Baggy Trousers and kettle-hat (and breastplate as well).

My Questions are as follows: Does anyone have a picture of the original Weapon and Swedish Pikeman costume from his period (1500's) perhaps pictures from a museum? and does anyone currently make a replica? as i have yet to find anything on my web searches.

Thanks,

Norlyn

[Martin Wallgren]

Here you go!

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t...t=dolstein

This thread is about Peter Johnssons replica of the Stavsvärd!

You also get the pictures of the Swedish conscript army that Paul Dolstein faced in 1502 at Elfborgs Castle!

[Merv Cannon]

Thanks Martin for reminding me of those great pages. I have a file on this weapon. I also have a theory.....what if this was a genuine desendant of the elusive Viking Halberd weapon.....being a Swedish thing and all. I forget which saga it is that describes how this Viking reaches a King or Prince and shoved this Viking Halberd right through him and... ( probablly puting his foot behind the shaft- butt)... lifts this unfortunate leader right up off the ground so that all his men could see his fate and thus surrender. Obviously there would have had to be something like this wavy guard to stop him sliding all the way down like a stuck boar !
Theres no way to prove it but I enjoy thinking of the possibility and I dont think its entirely improbable.
Cheers !

[Korey J. Lavoie]

Very interesting weapon, I imagine that it would have been very effective at both the cut and the thrust. As for the Viking Halbard: Blade Magazine had a good series of articles on Viking weapons and featured the Halberd. Their favorite and a great example of Black Humor: Involved a warrior at a seige who was sent to see if the warlord was actually home, while scaling the wall to get on the roof, the warlord stabbed him through the chinks in the logs with his halberd: The warrior falls, gets up and walks back to his army where they ask him if the enemy is home, to which he responds: "I cannot say but his Halberd is." Then falls and dies.
In the same article, a passage is referrenced where a small ax with a "T" shaped blade is described as being shaped like a Viking Halberd: Take a blade shaped in such a fashion oriented on it's "Side" so the bars of the t shape form the hooking and piercing points of the weapon with the top acting as a cleaving blade and it will perform all the functions assigned to a Viking Halberd.

[Anders Nilsson]

Some pics of the Swedish Swordstaff.

http://www.uppbadet.se/visa.php?galleri=Axtor...300062.JPG

http://www.uppbadet.se/visa.php?galleri=Axtor...300061.JPG

[Sean Belair]

that is a very neat weapon, are there any surviving originals?

[Elling Polden]

There is a rather long thread on the nature of the Atgeir/Kesje, AKA the viking "Helbard" at
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=5813

The most likely contender, MHO is the broad bladed hewing spear, like the Pettersen type G:

[Korey J. Lavoie]

I don't want to completely rehash the thread that was already linked: But then why the different names for the two? I think that you are on the right track but maybe in reverse, perhaps the Hewing Spear is the weapon related to the Staff-sword?

[Randall Moffett]

I think it is a really neat weapon. Seems like a good use of broken blades if that wazs ever done in their production.

RPM

[Elling Polden]

[Scott Woodruff]

I second! I have recently discovered and fallen in love with 15th C Scandinavian arms, armor and costume. I am just starting my own sword-staff and I would be eternally grateful if someone could turn up a good photograph of an original. The sword-staff doesn,t appear to be Scandinavian in origin, the Louis de Bruges copy of Froissart's chronicles (1460's) is full of representations of these weapons. I think that their asssociation with Scandinavia is due to their continued use there after they had mostly fallen out of use in the rest of Europe. As for it being in any way related to hoggspjot, heptisax, and such 10th-12th C saga terms, that one has been done to death elsewhere.

[Stephen Wheatley]

Egil's saga I think is the one featuring the hoggspjot (spellcheck that one) Egil Skallagrimsson - a huge Icelander wields one of these for king Athelstan of the English and carves up Scots, Norse, Welsh and a few Icelanders - he doesn't seem to discriminate, but there, his pa was nicknamed ' Kveldulf' - Evening Wolf. Is a it a halberd though? Thought it was a heavy mounted spear.

[Joe Pittman]

Modern version, Blade and guard by Earl Blackmore of Hell Fire Forge, 25".

[Peter O Zwart]