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Karl Knisley




PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Manning Imperial swiss sabre         Reply with quote

Hello
The, swiss sabre, from Manning Imperial,has to be the coolest reproduction sword I`ve ever seen.Does anyone own one?If I had $2500,I`d be sorely tempted.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is the first time I've seen it. It's beautiful. Those hilt styles are fascinating. I'm curious if "Swiss" is an accurate description for this, but it's what Manning Imperial states on their site.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is pretty cool. It even has a thumb "ring"--or loop, or whatever you'd call it in that form. I wonder if the original has that feature. If so, that would be the earliest version of a thumb ring I have seen.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
That is pretty cool. It even has a thumb "ring"--or loop, or whatever you'd call it in that form. I wonder if the original has that feature. If so, that would be the earliest version of a thumb ring I have seen.

I'm sure it did. It has an A.V.B. Norman Inner Guard Type 20. These hilts are found on many hand and a half swords of German origin.

The replica is dated mid-16th century: a time where many hand and a half hilts had thumb-rings. You can see an example I had replicated by looking at my Phoenix Metal Creations Hand and a Half Sword, also having a Type 20 Inner Guard.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The pommel reminds me of a ,jesters cap Happy. The whole thing has a sort of "fantasy" flare, to it.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Manning Imperial swiss sabre         Reply with quote

Karl Knisley wrote:
Hello
The, swiss sabre, from Manning Imperial,has to be the coolest reproduction sword I`ve ever seen.Does anyone own one?If I had $2500,I`d be sorely tempted.


Wow that is a sweet weapon. Beautiful. Another reason to wish i was rich.

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Jonathan Hopkins




PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
I'm sure it did. It has an A.V.B. Norman Inner Guard Type 20. These hilts are found on many hand and a half swords of German origin.

The replica is dated mid-16th century: a time where many hand and a half hilts had thumb-rings. You can see an example I had replicated by looking at my Phoenix Metal Creations Hand and a Half Sword, also having a Type 20 Inner Guard.


Nathan,
Thanks. I really need to pick up Norman's book on the subject. I have always wondered when the thumb ring emerged. I assumed it would have first appeared on a basket-type hilt, but the Type 20 shows otherwise.

On the subject of the saber, Manning Imperial have created a convincing saber. Others I have seen look strange, as if a 19th century saber blade has been added to a Medieval or Renaissance hilt.

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The hilt reminds me of a weapon in the Armoury of the Dukes of Burgundy (from this site: http://www.truefork.org/Photography/Burgundian_Armoury.php )


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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I thought the reproduction was really cool, then that museum piece got posted....
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Joe Fults wrote:
I thought the reproduction was really cool, then that museum piece got posted....

Wow! Me, too! I would love to have one of those!

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Feb, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, this saber is really gorgeous... Happy

Don't want to divert from the subject, but there is also a nice exemple of scale armour in the link Sean Flynt posted (and some very nasty looking polearms) :


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