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PostPosted: Mon 01 Sep, 2003 3:55 pm    Post subject: Another look at that beautiful Cashen Cutlass !         Reply with quote

A gorgeous piece of work from Kevin Cashen !



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PostPosted: Mon 01 Sep, 2003 8:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hmmm okay here's the question then. What makes a cutlass a cutlass exactly? To me this thing looks very much like one of those hunting swords or a hanger. Are a hanger and a cutlass the same thing? Is the difference in the guard?
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Sep, 2003 8:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

While I admire the skills needed to make a piece of this quality, I have to say that it does absolutely nothing for me.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 4:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Your sooooo medieval , Patrick *g*

These babies appeal to we modern day ( 17th-18th cen.) warriors, and gentlemen !
Barbarian's of bygone days could never see past their Type X's *g* ;-) Mac


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While I admire the skills needed to make a piece of this quality, I have to say that it does absolutely nothing for me.

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 4:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Russ

"It's all in the hips, it's all in the hips" ........

Yeah, I know what you mean ....... especially with a stag handle on it !

I'd say it' s that wide shell guard ......

Neumann's book describes a cutlass as : "A hanger or short saber, usually with a wide guard. The term applied to both land & sea swords in the 17th and early 18th centuries; by the late 1700's it denoted a navel sword". He describes a hanger as : "A short cutting sword carried mostly by foot soldiers". And he writes that the hunting sword is : "A short civilian sword originally used as a side arm while hunting".

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Hmmm okay here's the question then. What makes a cutlass a cutlass exactly? To me this thing looks very much like one of those hunting swords or a hanger. Are a hanger and a cutlass the same thing? Is the difference in the guard?


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 8:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

"Your sooooo medieval , Patrick *g* "

Yep, that's me Mac, Mr. Medieval!

I dig the stag grip though Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 11:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
While I admire the skills needed to make a piece of this quality, I have to say that it does absolutely nothing for me.


Ditto. I'm pretty much a medieval guy myself. Some people like pattern-welding all over the place, but I'm not one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 7:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It is very nice looking.

If Kevin is prowling this place I wonder if he could share some mechanical details about it and maybe what the inspiration for it was?

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Sep, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lol so basically you are telling me that there is not a whole heck of a lot of difference? Happy I have to say I agree with Patrick, I've been known to go as close to the present as a particularly nice looking rapier but that is about it. This thing must have been crazy hard to do but his other pattern welded stuff is more up my alley. That sword that he had at the blade show in Atlanta... wow! It's hard to come up with 4000 dollars on the spot though... Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 03 Sep, 2003 1:04 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Russ Ellis wrote:
Hmmm okay here's the question then. What makes a cutlass a cutlass exactly? To me this thing looks very much like one of those hunting swords or a hanger. Are a hanger and a cutlass the same thing? Is the difference in the guard?


I think that a hunting hanger is lighter and somewhat shorter than a cutlass, and that the cutlass offers better protection for the hand, the hunting hanger usually coming with a knucklebow or a straight, short guard.
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