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Julian Arellano
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 Posted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: What kind of sword is this? |
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Hi to everyone, I say yesterday on T.V the Ladyhawke movie , one who appears Michelle Pfeiffer and Rutger Hauer , and well the character of Rutger seems to use a bastard sword ? , lansdkencht sword? two handed sword? , swiss two handed sword? broadsword ? or ??? ...and well am asking because seems pretty nice and I want to know what kind of sword is this .
See the pictures above and well .. what can you tell me ?...
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Nathan Robinson
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Julian Arellano
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| Posted: Mon 11 Dec, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Thanks Nathan |
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Thanks Nathan , do you know where can I buy a similar sword ? or well a site where can I see different types of these swords ? .
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P Ballou
Location: N California Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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American Fencers Supply in San Francisco offers this kind of sword. Here is an example:
http://www.amfence.com/html/102cl.html
They also have some large swords made by Oscar Kolombatovich himself, some leftover from the Metropolitan Opera. It may be worth giving them a call to see what is still available.
Phil
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Edward Hitchens
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| Nathan Robinson wrote: | | looks more Italian to me than German, if anything at all. |
Just wondering, what features make it Italian rather than German?
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Craig Peters
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| Edward Hitchens wrote: | | Nathan Robinson wrote: | | looks more Italian to me than German, if anything at all. |
Just wondering, what features make it Italian rather than German? |
One thing that stands out to me is that a lot of antique German two handed swords have elaborate cross guards that are typically curved, with curled metal designs that look like they were inspired from plants. Some have metallic designs that look like stylized metallic vines one often sees on iron gates, while others have quatrefoile-style flares at the ends. The fact that the one depicted in the movie lacks this sort of guard makes it different from most of the antique German two handed swords that I've seen.
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Mikko Kuusirati
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The closest historical equivalents would be Northern Italian 15th-16th Century two-handers, in the vein of, for example, Del Tin models 5167 and 2162. As far as I can tell, the defining characteristics that make it Italian rather than Germanic are primarily the plain, straight crossguard, the simple triangular lugs (the smallish pointed protrusions right below the blunt ricasso) perpendicular to the blade, the lack of siderings on the guard, and generally the overall visual simplicity.
Of course, Navarre's claim that the sword had been in his family for five generations by the time of the story (13th or 14th Century, depending on who you ask) makes the design rather inappropriate, historically. 
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