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Tony G.




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PostPosted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Enclosed pictures of a Messer I have circa 1450, found in a river.... Maybe of interest to you. Merry Christmas.


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tony,

Thanks for posting those pictures.
The color of the pommel looks a bit greenish and has a different corrosion pattern: is it bronze? That would be interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Dec, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Sinister beauty         Reply with quote

Jean Henri Chandler wrote:
Wow Peter, I don't mean to sound like a fanboy, but that is one mean looking weapon.


I am an unabashed fanboy of Peter's work. Ha! It's all awesome stuff.

Thank you Tony for sharing the pics. I noticed the different corrosion patern too, and then I noticed Peter already mentioned it. Bronze huh... I think that would look pretty neat.

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Tony G.




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PostPosted: Tue 19 Dec, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Pete,
Looks like bronze on the picture but all Iron.
Tony..
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Fabrice Cognot
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Dec, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics, Tony.

Any idea of dimensions and find place (if that's not asking too much - that'd be really appreciated here) Happy ?

Yep, Peter, sometimes pics look greenish, but that's just a side effect of strange lighting.

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Jakob Elbęk E. Pedersen




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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe this will interest you: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=56047

Though the thread is mainly about the messers' smaller cousin; the bauernwehr/rugger - there are also some refrences to the messer.


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think Lutel might have had one or two, if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tony G. wrote:
Hello Pete,
Looks like bronze on the picture but all Iron.
Tony..


Thanks for the photo Tony, I'm particularly interested in the tangs of these weapons......

Thanks.......

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Tony G.




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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

OK Fab,
The messer was found in Germany, Complete lenth = 27" , Grip to of pommel = 6.70"
Widest part of blade = 2" Has six holes to attatch grip. This is a nasty weapon but the balance and size would make it I`m sure winner in battle. Hope this is of help.
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Jakob Elbęk E. Pedersen




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PostPosted: Wed 20 Dec, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This might be interesting as well: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=74668


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jan, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Messers         Reply with quote

W. Stilleborn wrote:


I actually sent em a mail about the messer just 5min ago. That one looks nice, but its hard to tell from a picture how well its really made.
Ive also really gotten smitten by this sort of hilt; http://www.olofsgillet.org/marsch/images/_MG_1659.jpg - and im trying to locate the original that has this type of hilt.



Eek!

That messer is so good lookin', it almost hurts!

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