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Bill Grandy
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 Posted: Fri 01 Dec, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: Decorative/Fancy medieval bucklers |
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I'd like to start a thread on examples of ornate or outlandish bucklers from the medieval period. I'd mostly like to see either modern reproductions, or else photos of originals, but I don't mind medieval illustrations either.
While I'd mainly prefer this topic to focus on medieval bucklers, I won't cry if someone has an example of a very cool buckler from another period that they want to share. 
Examples include the face-bucklers from Paulus Kal's fencing manuscript, or some of the exotic, fluted ones from Hans Talhoffer's.
To start off, here's a very nice one made by White Rose Armoury (http://www.whiterosearmoury.co.uk/) :
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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W. Schütz
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A repro of a Talhoffer buckler, dont know who made it.
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Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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W. Schütz
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Not really a buckler, but hard to make a post about extreme shields and not include this one;
Original one, iron spikes on hardened leather;
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Kel Rekuta
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Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost.
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Kel Rekuta
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An example of a so-called Welsh buckler from the Royal Ontario Museum. The boss and grip are iron. The face seems to be constructed of layered leather fastened with hundreds of nails. Way too much work!
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Eric Meulemans
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| Kel Rekuta wrote: | | Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost. |
These are very similar and from Middelalderens Vaben by Liebgott, Nationalmuseet. 1976. ISBN 87-480-0114-7
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Bill Grandy
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Fantastic stuff, guys.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Merv Cannon
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| Posted: Sat 02 Dec, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: Bucklers - Fancy |
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Hi............Yes , I agree fantastic stuff. Some of you know I have a bit of a shield thing ! I found a few nice ones in my files. There seems to be some debate at to weather or not bucklers were ever used in combat, but I have a heap in pics stored in a file illustrating their use in war......one or two even with a longsword !
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Merv ....... KOLR
http://www.lionrampant.com.au/
"Then let slip the dogs of war ! "......Woof !
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Chuck Russell
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| Kel Rekuta wrote: | | Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost. |
not norse, but iron age i believe
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R Looije
Location: Waddinxveen, Holland Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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| Chuck Russell wrote: | | Kel Rekuta wrote: | | Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost. |
not norse, but iron age i believe |
The piece of text says Middelaldlerig, now I don't actually speak the language used in the text, but something similarly Germanic and we have a word "Middeleeuws".
And "alt" is 'old' in German, so I'm guessing it stands for "as in the Middle Ages" (it seems to be an adjective).
So I'm opting mediaeval 
"Ik worstel en kom boven" (I struggle and prevail) - Motto for Zeeland, Holland
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Elling Polden
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| Kel Rekuta wrote: | | Some Norse bucklers? From an earlier discussion either here or on the old Arador site, reference lost. |
These are norwegian medevial bucklers, in the colection of the Oslo historical museum.
As far as I remember, they are dated to the high middle ages.
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
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James Barker
Location: Ashburn VA Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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Here is a cool 14th century bucker from the Museum of London I took pictures of on my trip to fight at Hastings. It is a wood base with metal bits on top:
Half was cleaned up and half was left as is for the display.
Here is an early 16th one made of leather with a few metal bits on it, also from the MoL:
Here are bits of another one of thos cool 16th century radar looking buckler, also in the MoL:
I have a few more examples of this kind of boss/buckler from other museums that I have not sorted yet.
James Barker
Historic Life http://www.historiclife.com/index.html
Archer in La Belle Compagnie http://www.labelle.org/
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Kel Rekuta
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Here's another view of the leather & iron buckler in the Museum of London. I wish I had dimensions for it. I didn't have anything to measure with when I saw it.
Kel
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from a better angle without the glass
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R Looije
Location: Waddinxveen, Holland Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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Well, wouldn't it be possible to discover what the size was of the dotted line on the base?
That way you can probably extrapolate the buckler's original size.
"Ik worstel en kom boven" (I struggle and prevail) - Motto for Zeeland, Holland
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James Barker
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Danny Grigg
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Here's a few more bucklers.
Can't remember where I found these pics, but it was online......
Danny
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Thu 07 Dec, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Danny Grigg wrote: | Here's a few more bucklers.
Can't remember where I found these pics, but it was online......
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The second one is from Paulus Kal's fechtbuch. I love those face bucklers.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Risto Rautiainen
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Man these are cool! Thanks for everyone!
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Danny Grigg
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This is a standard topic