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Nathan Robinson
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Gothic Beauty at the Bayerisches (photo intensive)         Reply with quote

W. Stilleborn and I were exchanging messages and he mentioned "gothic beauty" upon seeing some photos. That prompted me to post a few for all to see.

Attached here is some Gothic beautify found at the Bayerisches Nationalmuseum, Munich.

(I have no further info other than what it is posted. Consider this a gallery for you guys to discuss amongst yourselves...)

Cheers!



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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 5:26 pm    Post subject: GOTH         Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As magnificent as that armor is... My question is... Are the lances original?
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

George Hill wrote:
As magnificent as that armor is... My question is... Are the lances original?

Probably. There are many surviving lances. It's not rare.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

*crying* It's.... So.... Beautiful!!!!

Seriously, though. That is fantastic. I love the subtle variations... Hinged visors, couter patterns, etc.

Are all of them post 1480?
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Nov, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, great stuff Nathan. Really beautiful. I've never seen any of those images.

Funny, when you mentioned "gothic beauty" I figured this is the gothic beauty that you would be into Laughing Out Loud Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
George Hill wrote:
As magnificent as that armor is... My question is... Are the lances original?

Probably. There are many surviving lances. It's not rare.


I had no idea that lances were fluted to reduce weight. Facinating.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Arma Bohemia has two harnesses among their products that are very similar to two of the Bayerische ones in this thread;
http://www.armabohemia.cz/Novestr/armorA.htm - top of page.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I've been there!!! and can provide more modern and thousands (literally) more photos upon requests. There's some more artifacts that arn't armour such as some swords, spurs and a gun-crossbow... yes that's right a flintlock rifle with a crossbow on the underside. I thought that was pretty cool...

anyway photos on request.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Gaetano wrote:
a gun-crossbow... yes that's right a flintlock rifle with a crossbow on the underside. I thought that was pretty cool...


Eek!

I think a photo of this one would be very nice indeed please... Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Dec, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The photos and discussion of the crossbow combination weapon have been appropriately moved to their own topic.
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gorgeous stuff, Nathan. Thanks for posting these beautiful works of art. Does anyone know who these were made for? They certainly look like high-end pieces. I also note that these were made for fellows with pretty skinny legs - they sure wouldn't fit me! I guess the original owners spent a lot of time on horseback, and not much time marching.
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Dec, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

While many parts of these armours were real enough, none of them are displayed in this fashion anymore. Some of the parts are bogus (that giant pierced work rondel, ouch!). Other parts are early 'Maximilian'. They are very reminiscent of the sort of composed 'gothic' armours owned by collectors. There seems to be only ONE complete, homogeneous 'gothic' armour in the world, the famous 'Sigismund' harness.
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