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William Goodwin
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 Posted: Wed 01 Nov, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: The Cromwell has Landed. |
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Took an early, early lunch and ran over to the Fedex terminal to pick-up my newsest aquitition.....the CAS/Hanwei Cromwell Drogheda repro.
Couldn't wait for it to be delivered to the house, then wait to get home from work.
I like it! Will have to wait to get pics and more details about the way it handles.
(Even though I'm the warehouse suprv. - management frown upon having a 6' -1", long haired person
waving a sword around in the facility.)
Would like to personally thank Jason Hill @ Brightblades.com for (again) going the extra mile and getting this to me......mortuarys,mortuarys.......ahhh..............
Cheers,
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Location: Agder, Norway Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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Congratulations Bill!
I look forward to reading about how it handles etc. I've allways liked the looks of Cromwells' sword, especially the decoration. Funny; Cromwell belonged to a sect that considered modesty a virtue, and look at that "modest" sword  hehehe
Cheers,
Henrik
Constant and true.
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Russ Ellis
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I looked the sword over at Blade last year, and am very interested in hearing your impressions.
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Stephen A. Fisher
Location: Kentucky USA Joined: 17 Oct 2003
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Cool Bill. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
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Martin Wilkinson
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Glad to hear you got this beauty...
How's it handle?
"A bullet you see may go anywhere, but steel's, almost bound to go somewhere."
Schola Gladiatoria
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Jonathan Hopkins
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Finally! Fantastic, Bill. I am looking forward to your impressions and some photos!
Jonathan
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William Goodwin
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Bad & sad news folks........I got to play with the Cromwell a bit more last night after pipe & drum practice...
tested the flex again, this blade is NOT heat tempered!!! It took a bend from the false-edge to the tip......
How could CASI/Hanwei put a blade like this in a piece? I have waited a long while for this sword, only to have
excpetations dashed. They should have marketed it as being a display piece instead of a "historically accurate" sword.
Needless to say I'm quite pissed at the moment. I've sent CAS/Hanwei a nice little email about this...hoping that it's just a fluke and not the same will all the Cromwell's they've made............didn't want to spend this kind of money on a glorified wall hanger............
Not the lack of quality I expected from them...........
This one may find it's way back...I'm in conversation with Jason Hill (who's a great vendor) of Brightblades about this already. Will keep you updated on my findings & CASI/Hanwei say and suggest.
This may also be the nail in the coffin for my repro. collecting days...
A bit heart-broken....
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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William Goodwin
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| Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: |
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In retrospect,
I feel a need to apologise a bit for my last post....
Nathan, I'm sorry if the content of my last post concerning the Cromwell sword was not appropriate
for the forum. I just thought others may wish to know my honest opinion and findings.............
respectfully,
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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Nathan Robinson
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| Posted: Fri 03 Nov, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| William Goodwin wrote: | I feel a need to apologise a bit for my last post....
Nathan, I'm sorry if the content of my last post concerning the Cromwell sword was not appropriate
for the forum. I just thought others may wish to know my honest opinion and findings............. |
Please believe me when It tell you that you have absolutely nothing to apologize about. I have said it before and will again: I encourage people to discuss these things on this site. I only ask that it be done reasonably. It's late (or early, since it's 4am here and I have yet to sleep) and I've had a very long day so I might be missing something, but your post seems fine to me. I'm sorry to know of your disappointment. I know you were hoping to get a real keeper with that sword. I also hope that the problem was isolated to a bad sample and it is able to be replaced with little hassle to you.
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Martin Wilkinson
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Bill,
That sucks.
As Nathan said, i know you were looking forward to getting this piece.
I just hope that it can all be sorted and you get a Cromwell of the quality that sword deserves.
Martin.
"A bullet you see may go anywhere, but steel's, almost bound to go somewhere."
Schola Gladiatoria
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William Goodwin
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Nathan,
Thanks for your support......now......go get some sleep!!
Also for the sentiments from others on this matter......
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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Henrik Bjoern Boegh
Location: Agder, Norway Joined: 03 Mar 2004
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Bill, I'm very sorry to hear this. I can't imagine how I would have felt in your situation... Well, let's just say it wouldn't be safe being in my presence...
I hope you'll get it sorted out.
Cheers,
Henrik
Constant and true.
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Jean Thibodeau
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| William Goodwin wrote: | Nathan,
Thanks for your support......now......go get some sleep!!
Also for the sentiments from others on this matter......
Bill |
Yes this is very disappointing and probably made worse if on the surface you were very satisfied with the aesthetics of the sword ! 
It's like seeing a perfect looking sword in a display case and then finding out that the blade is zinc alloy: Years ago I bought what looked to me at the time as a pair of attractive Katanas .......... Yup, ZINC.  
( Oh, I'll echo your comment: Yes, Nathan get some sleep and ignore my e-mail from yesterday when I was checking if the problem was only with my MAC.   )
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Patrick Kelly
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William, that's very unfortunate and I'm sure quite frustrating. I doubt if all the Cromwell blades are like yours. I'd suspect this is just another example of Hanweis erratic quality control. The one aspect of their production that seems to have the greatest variance is their heat treatment. I've seen blades that were so burnt from being over-heated that they were too brittle and others like yours that were dead soft, all in the same model. This has always been the companies biggest failing since day-one. If you can exchange it for another one you may get a good example. Good luck.
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William Goodwin
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Yes Patrick, I too hope that is only a "bad apple" of the bunch senerio, but will just have to wait & see
what transpires from CAS.
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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William Goodwin
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I've heard back from CASI. They are having their people check the one's they presently have in their
warehouse and they want this one of mine back to inspect as well. The sales mgr. said that they want to do
whatever they can to make me satisfied and also to remedy any problems that the factory made be having in
the production of the blades for these.
Hopefuly, for the benefit of all, this is just an isolated incident and they can get me a "functional" replacement soon.
If all the others have the same problem, I may very well just return it for a full refund and be done with repro's altogether.
Just thought an update would be welcomed.
Bill
Roanoke Sword Guilde
roanokeswordguilde@live.com
"I was born for this" - Joan of Arc
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Jonathan Hopkins
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Bill,
I hope that yours was an isolated incident of por temper so that you can get a replacement quickly. I know how much you love mortuary swords and how long you have ben waiting for the release of this particular replica. It sounds like CASI is responding well to the situation.
Jonathan
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Steve Grisetti
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I have been away for the forum for a few days, and am just now catching up on things. My first thought on seeing the topic was "hooray for Bill", since I know that you had been looking forward to this piece for a long, long time. As I read through the posts, though, and saw what had transpired, well, 'heart-broken' says it all, doesn't it. I am glad to hear that CASI is being responsive to your plight, and taking steps to address the root cause of this defect. I look forward to hearing how this all works out.
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Gene Davis
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William,
Sorry to hear about your experience, glad to hear CAS/Hanwei are responding to it. Hopefully it was an isolated incident.
For what it's worth, I picked up my Cromwell this week and after reading this thread decided to test the flexibility of my blade, albeit not without trepidation. I bent it 8" out of true and it sprang right back. I'm not sure how much of a test that represents, and was wondering how much your blade was bent before the bend set. I felt mine could flex beyond the 8", but didn't want to chance it as I just brought it home. My sense is that I lucked out with one that's been tempered properly. All in all IMO the Cromwell is one of the nicest swords Paul Chen has made yet. Good luck with resolving your problem and I look forward to hearing what CAS/Hanwei comes up with as far as the cause and extent of the defect.
-Gene
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