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Igor Omeliantchuk




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PostPosted: Wed 11 Oct, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: runes on weapons and armour         Reply with quote

Hello. I need fotos of armour and weapons with runic signs, words, texts. I am studying runes and that's why i need to know everything about them, especiallly on armour and wepons.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Oct, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

For Runes on weapons and armour, have a look at the germanic bog sacrifices like Illerup Ådal, Ejsbøl, Nydam, Vimose (to name just a few).
Here you can see what they can look like:
http://www.moesmus.dk/illerup/deepweb.php?page=156&language=1

The internet is not the best source for this topic, you will have to go to a library. With the names I provided you should be able to find the most important books concerning the bog finds. Sadly for the international community, they are mainly published in Danish and German.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Oct, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: 12th century sword with runes         Reply with quote

Igor,
I don't know if this is the period and provenance you're looking for, but Oakeshott published a photo of a sword with runes on bronze fillets (his description) on the grip. At first he gave this sword a 13th century date, but then changed his mind and decided it more properly belonged to the period c.1100-25. It is in the collection of the Oslo Museum. It was found in a stone "cist" buried on farmland at Korsoygaden, Norway.
Oakeshott said the runes read "Asmundr gerosi mik, Asleikr a mik", which he translated as "Asmund made me; Asleik owns me". I've included a picture below, but it can be seen in Oakeshott's Records of the Medieval Sword and The Sword in the Age of Chivalry.
I hope this helps you on your quest to find arms and armour with runes!
Stay safe!



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Sword with runes, Oakeshott Type XII. 10 from Records of the Medieval Sword.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Oct, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Igor,
I found a transcription of the runes on the sword from Oakeshott's books in The Sword in Anglo-Saxon England by H.R. Ellis Davidson. I tried to copy it by hand the best I could; sorry for not getting it in a perfectly straight line. I copied the runes pretty faithfully, though.
Hilda Davidson's book also contains transcriptions of runic inscriptions on an Anglo-Saxon sword-pommel from the cemetery at Gilton, Kent. However, she says the interpretation is unreliable, so I didn't include it. She also included a section on runic inscriptions on sword scabbards. I could include some of those later if you would like.
Here you go, the inscription on the sword shown in the Oakeshott books:



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Runes on sword from 1100-1125.

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Ville Vinje




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PostPosted: Wed 11 Oct, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The Battersea seax has the entire Futharc on it (at least almost the entire Futhark).

A very nice looking seax if you ask me.



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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct, 2006 7:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Keep in mind that there is an older and a younger futhark.
I just wanted to mention that. Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: more runes...         Reply with quote

Hello all!

Igor,
Arne's right; it depends on what time and place you are studying. Runes did vary a bit. Is there a particular time period you were researching, or just runes in general?
I have included a few more hand-written copies from Hilda Davidson's The Sword in Anglo-Saxon England. The first is from an Anglo-Saxon sword pommel from a cemetery at Gilton. The runes were read by Haigh in 1872, but the interpretation is questionable.
The second is from a scabbard chape from the Danish-bog at Thorsbjerg. The inscription is interpreted something as "Servant of Ullr, Not of Bad Repute", a double name.
The third is from a scabbard chape from Vimose. It is interpreted as something like "Alli to Maerr, this sword", or "Alli possesses the famous One, a sword", or "I, Alli, possess the sword, Famous One".
The last is from a Viking Age scabbard mount from Greenmount, Ireland. It has been interpreted as "Domhnall Sealshead owns this sword".
I hope this helps your quest. Keep in mind, interpretations of the exact meanings often vary.
Stay safe!



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Runes from The Sword in Anglo-Saxon England.

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Igor Omeliantchuk




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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks a lot. That really helps me.
I am interested in runes in general (not only on weapons). Actually I'm studying esoteric sciences and i'm especially interested in runes. Also if you'll find something like spells on the weapons and armor (even without runes), please put the foto in this topic.
Thanks a lot again.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's interesting how many of the inscriptions say that so and so owns this sword.

Kind of like the way we label our clothes.

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