Author |
Message |
Alexander B
Location: Russia Joined: 14 Apr 2006
Posts: 2
|
Posted: Sat 15 Apr, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
Valeriy, maybe, you are right. But to my mind, our way of fight is dangerous only at first sight. I can't find an example of extremely serious injury. Boxing is far more dangerous
|
|
|
|
Gregory J. Liebau
Location: Dinuba, CA Joined: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 669
|
|
|
|
Valeriy Rog
Location: Ukraine, Kyiv Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 23
|
Posted: Sun 16 Apr, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Alexander B wrote: | Valeriy, maybe, you are right. But to my mind, our way of fight is dangerous only at first sight. I can't find an example of extremely serious injury. Boxing is far more dangerous |
I do know the examles of serious injuries but these cases are more exception than rule. In general I agree with you - steel weapon+full contact fight = awesome feelings an unforgetable experience
|
|
|
|
Wladislaw K.
Location: Moscow, Russia Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 7
|
Posted: Fri 16 Jun, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
It was very interesting to reed responses about Russian re-enactment groups
Fights without full contact, not are so interesting, here all depends on adequacy of your opponent.Сertainly happen various small troubles, but where without them?
Das leben ist ein Wurfelshpiel,
Wir wurfeln alle Tage.
Dem einen schenkt das Shicksal viel,
Dem anderen Muh und Klage.
|
|
|
|
Steve Grisetti
|
Posted: Fri 16 Jun, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
|
|
Welcome to myArmoury.com, Wladislaw K, and Valeriy Rog!
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
|
|
|
|
Wladislaw K.
Location: Moscow, Russia Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 7
|
Posted: Fri 16 Jun, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, thanks. Interesting forum, only to read it for me it is not so easy. Affects, the problem of a language barrier, he-he... It was necessary to learn English better Here at one Russian forum i see link for this - and become very interested.
By the way here it is - http://www.tforum.info/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?...entry98197
Das leben ist ein Wurfelshpiel,
Wir wurfeln alle Tage.
Dem einen schenkt das Shicksal viel,
Dem anderen Muh und Klage.
|
|
|
|
Nathan Hoin
Location: Austin, Texas Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Posts: 25
|
Posted: Sat 17 Jun, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
I can't speak Russian medieval reenactors, but I know that Russians reenacting WWII are absolutely fanatical. Soviet reenactors in the states, like myself, are blown away by Russian groups. One group, around Moscow, pooled their funds together and rebuilt an operational armour unit of about 10 tanks, and some german stuff as well! They're crazy, I love the Russians, they are just big on history in general.
|
|
|
|
Wladislaw K.
Location: Moscow, Russia Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 7
|
Posted: Sat 17 Jun, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
It is pleasant to hear this. All the matter, that even around Moscow from the ground it is possible to dig out everything, beginning from an ammunition, finishing sunk in a bog tank or airplain. One of my freands has bought to itself kar98 as a rifle intended for hunting. And and quite legally.
Das leben ist ein Wurfelshpiel,
Wir wurfeln alle Tage.
Dem einen schenkt das Shicksal viel,
Dem anderen Muh und Klage.
|
|
|
|
Ratmir K.
Location: Kiev, Ukraine Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 3
|
Posted: Sat 17 Jun, 2006 8:45 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm actually one of Ukrainian re-enactors and I think you should check out different Ukrainian web-resources considering historical fencing and re-enactment.
Try some of these:
http://www.silverwolf.lviv.ua
http://www.shpora.org.ua/gallery.php
http://www.deepguard.nm.ru
http://www.yar-tur.org.ua/liki.php
To add to previous posts, I'd like to say, that using steel weapons isn't that dangerous, especially when you check your armour carefully. On the other hand it's a lot more fun than fighting with some plastic or other pornographic weapons It's a bit frightening at first, but you soon get used to it and start to make crazy things in a battle
|
|
|
|
Valeriy Rog
Location: Ukraine, Kyiv Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 23
|
|
|
|
Bryce Felperin
Location: San Jose, CA Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 552
|
Posted: Mon 17 Jul, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
Looking at the pictures I notice how the reenactors are NOT pointing their halberds and pole-axes at each other in the reenactment. Good safety in my view.
|
|
|
|
Ratmir K.
Location: Kiev, Ukraine Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 3
|
Posted: Wed 19 Jul, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Valeriy, whatever )) It's a matter of habit ))
It's a pity I couldn't visit that event. We're going to have an interesting festival in Lviv this September, though.
Everyone's welcome
|
|
|
|
Elling Polden
|
Posted: Thu 20 Jul, 2006 5:19 am Post subject: |
|
|
Bryce Felperin wrote: | Looking at the pictures I notice how the reenactors are NOT pointing their halberds and pole-axes at each other in the reenactment. Good safety in my view. |
As far as I've gathered, the eastern style has very little in the way of spears and stabbing weapons; Maybe because even the blunts pack a hefty punch, and are just not "compatible" with full contact sparring.
The "soft" western style, however, can be quite spear heavy.
"this [fight] looks curious, almost like a game. See, they are looking around them before they fall, to find a dry spot to fall on, or they are falling on their shields. Can you see blood on their cloths and weapons? No. This must be trickery."
-Reidar Sendeman, from King Sverre's Saga, 1201
|
|
|
|
Valeriy Rog
Location: Ukraine, Kyiv Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 23
|
Posted: Thu 20 Jul, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
I wouldn't say eastern type doesn't include stabs. They are just permited on few festivals, in Korela as well, because of high injury risk. Guys stab as strong as slash and stabbing hurt more than blow
|
|
|
|
Marc-Antoine Jean
Location: Canada Joined: 10 Dec 2005
Posts: 71
|
Posted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have sen too much great armour replicas in my life to get impressed anymore. I still think that it is beautiful, but not impressed. And those swiss from Bern (www.bern.ru) has some lack of historicity in their armours mixing periods....
But the clothes are really beautiful.
My two cents.
|
|
|
|
Ratmir K.
Location: Kiev, Ukraine Joined: 17 Jun 2006
Posts: 3
|
Posted: Wed 26 Jul, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Marc-Antoine Jean, and how about these http://www.yar-tur.org.ua/ ?
Stabbing is good, but when you're wearing a bare mail coat, it's quite painful, even if the spear or the halberd is blunt
|
|
|
|
Bruno Giordan
|
Posted: Sat 29 Jul, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ratmir K. wrote: | Marc-Antoine Jean, and how about these http://www.yar-tur.org.ua/ ?
Stabbing is good, but when you're wearing a bare mail coat, it's quite painful, even if the spear or the halberd is blunt |
That's why thick gambesons were invented ..
I have started testing the strength of hemp tow, braiding on itself hemp fiber gives a very strong shock absorbing gambeson.
|
|
|
|
Valeriy Rog
Location: Ukraine, Kyiv Joined: 30 Sep 2005
Posts: 23
|
Posted: Tue 01 Aug, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
|
|
Jack or gambeson gives good protection in most cases. My jack saves me...
Padded armour is a good protection for the vikings as well
|
|
|
|
Tomasz Rajtar
Industry Professional
Location: Poland Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Posts: 19
|
Posted: Thu 03 Aug, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hello to all (my first post here).
Wow, someone links to my page...
It is shame, that I have no time to upgrade this website (better words - make everything once again from scratch)...
What can I say... this site shows my level of knowledge from 8 years back...
So better look at the quite new "temporary" galleries:
Late XV century event - beginning of this year, reconstruction of late XV century foot soldiers company
Late XIV century event - this year summer, part of project "Interregnum 1382-85" - an attempt to reconstruction of the civil war in Poland (after the death of king Louis I the Great - in Poland called "Hungarian").
-
|
|
|
|
Marc-Antoine Jean
Location: Canada Joined: 10 Dec 2005
Posts: 71
|
Posted: Thu 03 Aug, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
wow. your compagny looks really great.
I want to know, who is your armour maker?
Thanks
|
|
|
|
|