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Steven H




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Where to find gussets?         Reply with quote

I've seen depictions and descriptions of mail gussets and even re-enactors wearing them, but I've not found an armorer who sells them.

Any suggestions?

P.S. Same with mail faulds, any sources?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Huh, used to be able to get them from Historic Enterprises, but now I'm not finding them on the site...

http://www.historicenterprises.com/


(edited to put CORRECT website link)

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Thomas James Hayman




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The simple thing to do is mail the good people at HE and ask. they won't bite much and are very friendly
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Rod Walker




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You mean like these











The left voider is pointed on now.

I ordered these from Get Dressed for Battle in the UK. http://www.gdfb.co.uk/

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Steven H




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Thanks         Reply with quote

I'd perused the GDFB site earlier and been impressed but, apparently, had missed the gussetts. Those are exactly what I was looking for.
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Steven H




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Follow-up question on gussets:

They appear to require a large number of points to attach. Which seems . . . 'inconvenient'. Are there other period means of attaching them and/or do they need to be removed after each use?
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W. R. Reynolds




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PostPosted: Fri 21 Jul, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I used waxed linen thread and a curved carpet needle and sewed mine on, attaching about every sixth ring.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

ive seen most people jsut sew them on
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Rod Walker




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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I pointed mine on as I want to be able to take them off and clean. I joust in this harness so I get very sweaty as well as getting covered in horse sweat. Being able to just undo the points and clean the mail is a must.

I don't take it off all the time. Often it just needs a wipe over with the olive oil/beeswax mix that I use on all my harness and leather.

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Rod
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And tilt at windmills under a wild sky!
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That dare not tilt at something, ere he die?"
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Rod Walker wrote:
Often it just needs a wipe over with the olive oil/beeswax mix that I use on all my harness and leather.



Olive oil and beeswax ? Sounds interesting, but I don't want to highjack this thread: It might be interesting learning more about this and how you maintain your armour. Maybe you could start a topic about it ?

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Joe Loder




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jul, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Could I see some more pictures of the gussets (if you have them)? I'm going to start on some for myself (not rivetted) and I'm in the patterning stage (and the finding time stage).

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R Smith




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PostPosted: Mon 24 Jul, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They are also called "voiders" which might yield better searches both here and on the net.
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