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Pamela Muir
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 Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: Darkwood Armory rondel dagger |
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New toy! And it is wicked sharp! It went through it's cardboard box with absolutely no resistance! 
Scott Wilson of Darkwood Armory made me this lovely rondel dagger. The dagger is about 19 1/4 inches long. The blade is just short of 15 inches. The blade has a triangular cross section with a nice stiff spine. The handle is carved from yellowheart wood and the light plays off the grain of the wood so nicely, unfortunately that does not show up in the photos. My apologies for the photos, they were taken with a disposable camera by someone with a complete lack of skill when it comes to photography. 
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Pamela Muir
Founder/Lead Instructor
Academy of Chivalric Martial Arts
"I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night. He's gotta be strong, And he's gotta be fast, And he's gotta be fresh from the fight." ~Steinman/Pitchford
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Rondel Pamela.  I notice in the picture that the point comes to a small rounded tip, almost like a mini tanto point ?
Is this an accurate description or just the picture ? This would make for a less fragile point than one coming to a needle tip.
Oh, how thick is the blade at the guard and is the blade flat ground or hollow ground ?
I notice the length of blade at 15" : It this just a coincidence that my custom ordered design from A & A I am going for a 15" blade ?   
Now just a chick with a sword and a very wicked knife. 
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Gordon Clark
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| Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm funny. I have 2 rondels an the way, one custom A&A and one from someone else. Both are 15" blades...
Looks nice Pamela!
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Pamela Muir
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| Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Jean Thibodeau wrote: | | I notice the length of blade at 15" : It this just a coincidence that my custom ordered design from A & A I am going for a 15" blade ? |
Jean,
It must be that when I grown up, I want to be just like you. The tip is pretty much just like it shows in the pictures. Other details will follow later.
Gordon and Jean,
Hmm, so is 15 inches fairly standard? I let Mr. Wilson pretty much do as he wished. I just requested that it be stiff, sharp and have the carved yellowheart handle. (Some of you know by now that yellow is my favorite color.) 
Pamela Muir
Founder/Lead Instructor
Academy of Chivalric Martial Arts
"I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night. He's gotta be strong, And he's gotta be fast, And he's gotta be fresh from the fight." ~Steinman/Pitchford
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I just like 15" for a large dagger with plenty of reach, enought length to parry with as opposed to an 8" blade that is much to short to parry with unless incredibly lucky or skillful.
Anything longer gets into that hard to define zone where one isn't sure to call it a dagger or a short sword.
If I had to give a range of length according to this definition it would be between 12" and 18" with 15" being the happy medium.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Joe Fults
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| Posted: Fri 14 Jul, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Looks nice enough.
How is the whole thing assembled?
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Pamela Muir
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: |
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How is the whole thing assembled? |
I'm not quite sure what you mean. 
The tang and the blade seem to be one piece and the tang goes through both rondels and the grip and appears peened on the top rondel. The grip is one solid piece of wood. I don't think I can provide more details than that.
Pamela Muir
Founder/Lead Instructor
Academy of Chivalric Martial Arts
"I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night. He's gotta be strong, And he's gotta be fast, And he's gotta be fresh from the fight." ~Steinman/Pitchford
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 5:27 am Post subject: |
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The new rondel looks great, Pamela! I especially like the yellowheart grip (though yellow isn't my favorite color).
| Pamela Muir wrote: | ....Jean,
It must be that when I grown up, I want to be just like you.... |
Ummm, I think Jean is a little huskier than you want to be.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Pamela Muir wrote: | Jean,
It must be that when I grown up, I want to be just like you. |
Oh, Pamela, I tell you to grow up all the time, and you never listen.
I got to see this dagger last week. It's pretty cool! The grip is really pretty. The blade sort of has a rough, working tool finish to it that makes it look rather wicked.
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Pamela Muir
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Oh, Pamela, I tell you to grow up all the time, and you never listen. |
Should I?
| Bill Grandy wrote: |
I got to see this dagger last week. It's pretty cool! The grip is really pretty. The blade sort of has a rough, working tool finish to it that makes it look rather wicked. |
Besides yellow, I also love the simple utilitarian look. It's not fair that my weapons are prettier than I am.
Pamela Muir
Founder/Lead Instructor
Academy of Chivalric Martial Arts
"I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night. He's gotta be strong, And he's gotta be fast, And he's gotta be fresh from the fight." ~Steinman/Pitchford
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Pamela Muir wrote: | | Bill Grandy wrote: |
Oh, Pamela, I tell you to grow up all the time, and you never listen. |
Should I?
| Bill Grandy wrote: |
I got to see this dagger last week. It's pretty cool! The grip is really pretty. The blade sort of has a rough, working tool finish to it that makes it look rather wicked. |
Besides yellow, I also love the simple utilitarian look. It's not fair that my weapons are prettier than I am. |
Growing up ! What's that ? I have the same basic interest in swords and history I had when I was 10 years old.
Growing older does seem to be something hard to stop but slowing it down a bit exercising does help and I'm sure you are in better shape than I am aerobically: I've seen the training film clips! I do have to lay off the 900 pound leg pressed a bit as my ankles are getting sore ! ( A joke, but that weight IS my current 1 rep maximum and my ANKLES do need a break before they BREAK: No joke ) ( Oh, that's 11X45 pounds plates on each side of the 45° leg press machine. Sorry, a little bragging is good for the soul once in a while. )
Oh, the yellow handle looks great by the way, to get back on topic.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Joe Fults
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Pamela Muir wrote: | | Joe Fults wrote: |
How is the whole thing assembled? |
I'm not quite sure what you mean.
The tang and the blade seem to be one piece and the tang goes through both rondels and the grip and appears peened on the top rondel. The grip is one solid piece of wood. I don't think I can provide more details than that. |
That's what I was after.
Basically wondered if it was peened or bolted.
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Pamela Muir
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| Posted: Sat 15 Jul, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Jean Thibodeau wrote: | | I do have to lay off the 900 pound leg pressed a bit as my ankles are getting sore! |
Ooooooh! Aaaaaah!
Back on topic, sort of,
I'm glad that I finally have a nice sharp dagger in my collection. My husband got my hopes up when he suggested I get a pair of stilettos and then dashed them when I realized he meant shoes.
Pamela Muir
Founder/Lead Instructor
Academy of Chivalric Martial Arts
"I need a hero. I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night. He's gotta be strong, And he's gotta be fast, And he's gotta be fresh from the fight." ~Steinman/Pitchford
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Martin Wallgren
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| Pamela Muir wrote: | | My husband got my hopes up when he suggested I get a pair of stilettos and then dashed them when I realized he meant shoes. |
Isn´t that a drag! I just got a few new training things and my girlfriend just nags that I should spend my money on new clothes or stuff like that. Like I need that, they are good and have been so for the last five or six years...
Swordsman, Archer and Dad
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