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Martin Wallgren
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 Posted: Wed 29 Mar, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: Wanted: Pics of helmets! |
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I would be very happy to se what you gentlemn and ladies could come up with on the subject of pictures of reconstruated and original helmet of the type found in Sutton Hoo and Valsgärde and vendel and Ulltuna!
Just think they are beutiful beond amigination!
Thanks!!
Martin
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Jim Adelsen
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Paul Mortimer
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Anglii/
You can find a picture of my Sutton Hoo helmet replica at the above. It is made by David Roper.
Cheers,
Paul
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Alexi Goranov
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Try this site .
Another site discussed on this thread disappeared (along with all the photos I linked to).
Valentine armouries make repros of some of these.
Cheers,
Alexi
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Some old saved pics i have 
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Valsgärde 8
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pic of a pic, Valsgärde 5 not exacly copy of it
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Martin Wallgren
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Fantastic!!
I realy thimk these are wonders of craft. And from a time when most people think is the Dark Age. At least the workmanship in helmetmaking ws in a enlightened state...
Martin
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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And Ulltuna
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Ulltuna
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Bruno Giordan
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| Martin Wallgren wrote: | Fantastic!!
I realy thimk these are wonders of craft. And from a time when most people think is the Dark Age. At least the workmanship in helmetmaking ws in a enlightened state...
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This ages were dark only for polemicists from other periods, the ones who followed different cultural and political models: most notably, the renaissance men who had aesthetical grudges against the old times they would call disparagingly gothic (the Goths were considered low level barbarians in Italy) or the french illuminist writers, who would describe everything that existed under the Ancien Regime as backward, unjust or cruel.
We today tend to use a combination of this two prejudices when looking at the high and low middle ages, forgetting that they produced exquisite writers like Dante or Chaucer, or that this was the age of chivalry, of bravery and of a spirituality that today has not been replaced by anything but sterile consumerism, leaving a soulless Europe.
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Folkert van Wijk
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We today tend to use a combination of this two prejudices when looking at the high and low middle ages, forgetting that they produced exquisite writers like Dante or Chaucer, or that this was the age of chivalry, of bravery and of a spirituality that today has not been replaced by anything but sterile consumerism, leaving a soulless Europe. |
Amen! 
A good sword will only be sharp, in the hands of a wise man…
I am great fan of everything Celtic BC, including there weapons.
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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 Sävedal 4-1
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Sävedal 4-1 ;-)
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Find a nice copy of Vendel 1 helmet, info about it
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Martin Wallgren wrote: | Fantastic!!
I realy thimk these are wonders of craft. And from a time when most people think is the Dark Age. At least the workmanship in helmetmaking ws in a enlightened state...
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I tend to think that one reason to call it the " Dark Ages " is that the amount of known original sources i.e. written history, surviving artifacts is relatively poor in quantity but not quality compared to other periods of history before or after? Or, that this is the impression of the period that 19th century historians had of this period, thus the name " Dark " as in the light of knowledge shining weakly !
More recent research may have filled in some of these " gaps " in knowledge ? Afterall, we seem to know something about the history during the age of Charlemagne and using multiple sources like historical records left from the Eastern Roman Empire or Arab historians etc ....... Crossreferencing many of these probably gives us much more information about the period than a 19th century scholar knowing only about his country's historical records and not giving any credence to
" Foreign " sources ! Add in national pride and jingoism to distort the " official " history of the " Motherland / Fatherland ".
With 19th century sources we get stuff like Viking with cow horns on their helmets .........  
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Geoff Wood
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Hi all
No pics. to offer, sorry. That front to back segemented pattern ridge is a predominant motif of these (as Martin says, BEAUTIFUL) helmets. What animal, real or mythical, is it thought to represent?
Geoff
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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| Geoff Wood wrote: | Hi all
No pics. to offer, sorry. That front to back segemented pattern ridge is a predominant motif of these (as Martin says, BEAUTIFUL) helmets. What animal, real or mythical, is it thought to represent?
Geoff |
It can be the Lindsnake or dragon Nidhögg in the worldtree Yggdrasil, Swedish version and English version about it in wikipedia
on Suttonhoo helmet are a bird to.
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Dan Dickinson
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First is a pic of a reproducton by Ivor Lawton, the others are from the Ulhednar group...http://www.ulfhednar.org .
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Anton de Vries
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| Folkert van Wijk wrote: | | Bruno Giordan wrote: |
We today tend to use a combination of this two prejudices when looking at the high and low middle ages, forgetting that they produced exquisite writers like Dante or Chaucer, or that this was the age of chivalry, of bravery and of a spirituality that today has not been replaced by anything but sterile consumerism, leaving a soulless Europe. |
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Hey Folkert,
I'm not sure about my fellow europeans as I do not bother with TV or newspapers, but I definitely do not consider myself a sterile consumer.
I will however visit Deventer some day soon and spank you for insulting me and millions of other Europeans. 
That is, if you still attend the AMEK classes....
If you don't I'll have to join the Romans I guess....
I'll get you eventually.
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Eric Allen
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| Geoff Wood wrote: | Hi all
No pics. to offer, sorry. That front to back segemented pattern ridge is a predominant motif of these (as Martin says, BEAUTIFUL) helmets. What animal, real or mythical, is it thought to represent?
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To me, it looks like its supposed to represent the bristley back of a wild boar. In part because I just read a recent translation of Beowulf which makes refrence to the "boar-ridge" on helmets--and when I saw these pictures I had an "Ah-ha!" moment.
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Medieval Reproductions have made there's version of a Beowulf helm with a wild boar on it,
who know's maybe some day they dig up Skalunda högen/hill and we will know hove it's look like,
rumors say's he or a king can be in there
 
Frid o Fröjd!
Patrik
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Geoff Wood
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| Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom wrote: | | Geoff Wood wrote: | Hi all
No pics. to offer, sorry. That front to back segemented pattern ridge is a predominant motif of these (as Martin says, BEAUTIFUL) helmets. What animal, real or mythical, is it thought to represent?
Geoff |
It can be the Lindsnake or dragon Nidhögg in the worldtree Yggdrasil, Swedish version and English version about it in wikipedia
on Suttonhoo helmet are a bird to. |
Tack Patrik
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Geoff Wood
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| Eric Allen wrote: | | Geoff Wood wrote: | Hi all
No pics. to offer, sorry. That front to back segemented pattern ridge is a predominant motif of these (as Martin says, BEAUTIFUL) helmets. What animal, real or mythical, is it thought to represent?
Geoff |
To me, it looks like its supposed to represent the bristley back of a wild boar. In part because I just read a recent translation of Beowulf which makes refrence to the "boar-ridge" on helmets--and when I saw these pictures I had an "Ah-ha!" moment. |
Interesting idea. Thanks Eric.
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