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Chad Arnow
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 Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: First pics of my Jesse Bailey scabbard |
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Hey folks,
Just wanted to share a couple of pics of the scabbard Jesse Bailey made for my ArmArt S4.
I'll post more pics and a more thorough overview sometime this weekend.
I'm very happy with it.
Chad
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David McElrea
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| Posted: Fri 30 Jan, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Chad,
Congrats on a lovely scabbard-- it suits your sword beautifully.
David
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Joel Whitmore
Location: Simmesport, LA Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 5:50 am Post subject: Nice one Chad |
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I always loved that 12th century scabbard design with the integrated belt. It also wears well. Very nice job on this one too! Also a handclap for teh nice pics.
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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I love the texture of the leather, it gives it a very rich look.
Nice.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi Chad
Nice piece of work !
I'm curious why he chose to slant the intergraded lace at the top , as opposed to being straight across ?
Does it hang better with that angle ? Also , what sort of buckle does it have ?
Mac
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Thomas McDonald wrote: | Hi Chad
Nice piece of work !
I'm curious why he chose to slant the intergraded lace at the top , as opposed to being straight across ?
Does it hang better with that angle ? Also , what sort of buckle does it have ?
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I bet he did that in an attempt to have the scabbard hang at an angle, which it does anyway with this set-up. I've never seen a photo of one like that, but there are inumerable ways to do that set-up.
I don't think it has a buckle Mac. It looks like the early medieval pattern in which the end of the belt is split, and then laced through those two holes.
"In valor there is hope.".................. Tacitus
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | | I don't think it has a buckle Mac. It looks like the early medieval pattern in which the end of the belt is split, and then laced through those two holes. |
Yeah, it's called a "slit-tail." There are examples in Oakeshott anbd others of the non-buckle arrangement. I haven't seen many of these produced, so I went with that. Also, if I ever drop some weight, like I intend to, it's easier to shorten the belt.
The angle does help it wear properly. I think it would naturally pull in that direction if it were laced straight. This helps eliminate that stress, I suppose.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:07 am Post subject: Some more info |
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Wood: poplar
Scabbard cover: brown-dyed leather (Jesse usually mixes his own dyes)
Belt: elkskin, surface-dyed for authenticity
Lining: wool
Chape: antiqued steel (?)
There is also a pair of tooled lines running down the scabbard's face, which is very straight. The seam on the scabbard runs up the back. I toyed with the idea of having it run up the trailing edge (along the edge of the blade that points backward), which is seen on some historical scabbards. [/b]
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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How about some pics of the chape Chad?
Hey, say that three times fast.........chape Chad, chape Chad, chape Chad.......................
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, Howy ( of Albion) made me a reproduction of that "slit-tail" design , from Oakeshotts drawing !
For some reason I reversed the setup in my head, thinking the tails were at the end Chad pictured ( which obviously are not split , and not noticing the two slit holes ) , so buckle came to mind !
Macs bad , thanks for the clarification ! Mac
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | How about some pics of the chape Chad?
Hey, say that three times fast.........chape Chad, chape Chad, chape Chad....................... |
Patrick,
I'll try to get some good pics today.
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Jesse S. Bailey
Location: Atlanta, Georgia Joined: 14 Nov 2003
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Some of you had questions regarding the angle of the slit on the scabbard that I made for Chad. Although Oakeshott shows line drawings in some of his books, he never shows an original that has the slits. I found the original in Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight by David Edge. Look on page 63, there are two original scabbards. I copied the one on the left, which is the St. Maurice sword and scabbard in Turin. If you look closely, the six slits are gradually angled. The one on the right has no such slits, but instead the leather strips encompass a bulk of underlying leather. Both are variations on a theme. And by the way, the St. Maurice scabbard is stiched up the back edge.
I hope this is some help. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me at wensdie@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
Jesse Bailey
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:45 am Post subject: Some more pics |
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Here are some more pics.
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Joel Whitmore
Location: Simmesport, LA Joined: 25 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:45 am Post subject: Thanks for posting Jesse |
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| Jesse S. Bailey wrote: | Some of you had questions regarding the angle of the slit on the scabbard that I made for Chad. Although Oakeshott shows line drawings in some of his books, he never shows an original that has the slits. I found the original in Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight by David Edge. Look on page 63, there are two original scabbards. I copied the one on the left, which is the St. Maurice sword and scabbard in Turin. If you look closely, the six slits are gradually angled. The one on the right has no such slits, but instead the leather strips encompass a bulk of underlying leather. Both are variations on a theme. And by the way, the St. Maurice scabbard is stiched up the back edge.
I hope this is some help. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me at wensdie@yahoo.com.
Thanks,
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It's always nice to see a craftsman post on here so we can ask them a 1000 questions  The angled slits would seem to make more sense given the way the scabbard is supposed to hang. Interestingly I thumbed thorugh my Macejowski Bible and noticed that illustration 77 (The Five Kings are Drawn From Their Hiding Places and Dishonored) shows Joshua standing with a scabbard that has slanted slots also. Another intersting point is that this is not depicted on most other scabbards in the book as they have buckles and a different attachment. Just some curious things.
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Sat 31 Jan, 2004 9:49 am Post subject: One more pic |
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Here's another.
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