[Elling Polden]

Sometime in the late roman period, an army was defeated in denmark. As a offering to the gods, the victors destroyed their equipment, and sacrificed it in a nearby lake.
The lake later dried out, and was recently excavated, yielding some 15000 items, some in very good condition.


http://www.illerup.dk/deepweb.php?top=29&language=0

[Allan Senefelder]

This is a HUGE find. I suspect it will take years to catalog and learn all that is to be learned from this find and I can imagine how much new information there will be from it.

[Risto Rautiainen]

Thanks for posting that. Great stuff. Now to find someone danish to translate that whole site for us.

[Wolfgang Armbruster]

Very interesting!
Any info on who the combatants were? Was it Danes against Danes (if we can even call em that already) or was it an enemy from somewhere else?

[Sean Flynt]

Astonishing! The reconstruction details of the baldrics and shields alone is enough to keep us occupied in the workshop for years! Thanks for the link!

[Morten Lundsteen]

[Felix Wang]

A very interesting site. Thanks for posting it. I do have a question, though, which I have posted on Swordforum: http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66095
It refers to a sculpture shown on one of the linked articles, which shows something that looks very much like ring armour. I don't know if you could comment, but I would appreciate it if there is any useful information about this armour.

[Sean Flynt]

This page has an English language article about the weapons found at the site (two versions, PDF and HTML):

http://www.illerup.dk/deepweb.php?top=30&language=0

[Risto Rautiainen]

Okay, here goes. I'm particularly interested in the runes.

[Wolfgang Armbruster]

Nice, there's a German version as well.
I'll read it and then try to sum up the important things.

Edit: The article I've just read suggests that the spears,lances and shields were all made in Denmark or northern Europe. The swords however include a large number of Roman imports which sounds very plausible if you look at the hilts.
Alltogether far more spears were found thand swords.

[Elling Polden]

I've been to the display at moesgård, wich is very nice. The excavation reports fill several large tomes.
They have a lot of stuff on display, including sword blades, some of them pattern welded.

Concerning the mail picture, it looks like a stone carver who didn't think it worth it to chiccle out mail, and drilled holes instead

Edit: Judging by the style of the craftmanship on the personal items, the army was from norway. (or, rather, what is to become Norway)
Swords could have been bought in bulk from roman merchants in england or gaul.

[Benjamin Larsen]

hey Risto

sorry about my english, i have not used it for a couple of years.
ok here we go:

[Lansespids med runer: Næroptagelse af lansespids. WAGNIJO, stemplet med runer, læses fra højre mod venstre.]

Lancehead with the runes: close up of lancehead. WAGNIJO, stamped with runes, Is read from right to left.

[Høvl med runer: Delvist ulæselig indskrift på en stagehøvl, afilad??]

Plane with runes: partly illegible inscription on a (pole plane?), afilad??

[Drikkehorn med runer: Fu??R – fra, to uforståelige indskrifter på bronzebeslagene til drikkehorn.]

Drinking horn with runes: Fu??R, two illegible inscription on the bronze plate for a Drinking horn.

[Lansespids med runer: wagnijo, mandsnavn på lansespids, læses fra højre mod venstre.]

Lancehead with the runes: wagnijo, male name on a Lancehead, Is read from right to left.

[Skjoldhåndtag med runer: nithijo tawide, mandsnavnet nithijo og udsagnsordet gjorde på et skjoldhåndtag af sølv, læses fra højre mod venstre. ]

Shieldhandle with the runes: nithijo tawide, the male name nithijo and the word tawide (did) on a shieldhandle of silver, Is read from right to left.

[Skjoldhåndtag med runer: laguthewa, mandsnavn på et skjoldhåndtag af sølv, læses fra højre mod venstre.]

Shieldhandle with the runes: laguthewa, male name on a shieldhandle of silver, Is read from right to left.

[Skjoldhåndtag med runer: swarta, mandsnavn på et skjoldhåndtag af bronze, læses fra venstre mod højre.]

Shieldhandle with the runes: swarta, male name on a shieldhandle of bronze, Is read from right to left.

[Dupsko med runer: firha(?), delvist ulæselig indskrift på dupsko (sværdskedebeslag) af bronze. ]

Ferrule with runes: firha(?),partly illegible inscription on a ferrule of bronze.

[Ildstål med runer: gauthR, mandsnavn (?) ridset på et ildstålshåndtag af træ, læses fra venstre mod højre. ]

Firesteal? with runes: gauthR, male name (?) carved in wood, Is read from right to left.

Hope it helps

best regards[/quote]

[Benjamin Larsen]

hey again

have you seen that three of the articles is in english?

http://www.illerup.dk/deepweb.php?top=30&language=0

[Arne Focke]

Normaly i am just reading in this forum (please excuse my rusty English), but since i have just worked (well, not just, bust several months ago) with the lance heads in the moesgård museum i might give you a few advises.

There is an english book about this bog find called: Illerup Adal: Archaeology as a Magic Mirror, written by Jørgen Ilkjær.
It is just an overview, but it will give you a good idea what this bog find is about.
The main publication on this topic will consist of 11 volumes, also by J. Ilkjær. Ten are available already, the last one (about the swords) should be published shortly. Sadly, for you (i don't mind it ) they are only in German an Danish.

Some of the Material points to the scandinavian region as origin of the attackers, whose weapons where deposited there.

[Felix Wang]

Very useful stuff, everyone - thanks.

If I am reading the material correctly, there is nothing resembling a helmet or body armour in the entire collection. Is this right, or are there other pieces of military gear in the 10 volumes of published material?

[Arne Focke]

As far as I know, there is no such piece in Illerup.

I think it might be helpful to give you a quick overview of the find, because the term "migration period" only suits the smallest part of the find.


The deposits were buried in a small lake of 250 x 400 meter.
There are four main deposits from different periods. The first one, Illerup A, can be dated to 200 A.D.. This one is the biggest of the four. Here material belonging to about 400 warriors was excavated.The second, Illerup B, dates around 230 A.D.. The youngest deposit from the roman iron age, Illerup C, dates around 375 A.D.. The last one, Illerup D, is the first one from the migration period and dates around the fifth century.

It is also important to keep in mind that, although it appears that the main part of the deposit has been excavated, only 40 % of the former lake has been excavated.

[Elling Polden]

[Elling Polden]

edit: Double post.

[Arne Focke]

You have to remember that the main part of Illerup, as well as the other bog sacrifices, is not from the migration period, but from the roman iron age. The germanic tribes of that time seldom wore armour in battle. Sometimes roman armour from a slain enemy was used (it may also have been traded). There are helmet pieces and pieces of chainmail from the sacrifice of Thorsberg. More chainmail was found in Vimose.
Earlier roman authors also describe that fighting habit.
With the start of the migration period these bog sacrifices come to an end.

[Martin Wallgren]

This is the most intresting topics so far for me, and hopefully to others. I vote for it to be promoted to spotlight status, but hey that is just me:)!!

Martin