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Bill Duncan
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 Posted: Tue 28 Mar, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: Atlanta Cutlery bare Del Tin Blades |
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I know I am going to hate my self but I can't be selfish and yall are family so what the heck.
Atlanta Cutlery has found a few of their old Del Tin blades and have them up for sale. Since these are just blades they are pretty cheap and yes they have the old CK steel. I wanted the falchion but they only have three left and I am as usual broke so go get em yall.
Dunc
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G. Scott H.
Location: Arizona, USA Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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Bill Duncan
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Thats what I get for going out of town 
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Brian M
Location: Austin, TX Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Sorry, but what is "CK" steel? Is it non-heat-treated or what?
Brian M
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G. Scott H.
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| Brian M wrote: | Sorry, but what is "CK" steel? Is it non-heat-treated or what?
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Different parts of the world use different industry standards. In the US we use SAE. DIN is Germany's department of industry standards. CK is a DIN classification referring to carbon steels, so, for example, CK-55 is the German nomenclature for what we would call 1055 or SAE1055. This was the steel that Del Tin apparently used before switching to the chrome vanadium steel they currently use (6150, or something similar, I believe?). 
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Steve Grisetti
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| G. Scott H. wrote: | | Brian M wrote: | Sorry, but what is "CK" steel? Is it non-heat-treated or what?
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Different parts of the world use different industry standards. In the US we use SAE. DIN is Germany's department of industry standards. CK is a DIN classification referring to carbon steels, so, for example, CK-55 is the German nomenclature for what we would call 1055 or SAE1055... |
Actually, I think you mean to say AISI 1055. AISI is the American Iron and Steel Institute. SAE is the Society of Automotive Engineers. I'm not in a position to comment on the equivalency of CK-55 to AISI1055.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
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Shae Bishop
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I picked up one of the cutlass blades a few weeks back. It's scuffed and the tang is slightly bent to one side but it's fairly sharp and has a really cool back edge which will cut milk jugs nearly as well as the front edge. Overall, a really good buy, I feel. I would really love to send it to Old Dominion Forge to get it hilted with a wood grip, cap pommel, and shell gaurd. However this is probably wishful thinking. I may try making some of the fittings myself and/or buy separate ones from somewhere like the Albion moat sale and assemble them.
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G. Scott H.
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| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | [ Actually, I think you mean to say AISI 1055. AISI is the American Iron and Steel Institute. SAE is the Society of Automotive Engineers. |
I'm not certain of that myself. I've seen various steels listed as AISI/SAE 1055, 1095, 5160, etc., so I think both institutions use interchangable nomenclature for steel types? I am pretty sure that CK-55 is the equivalent of AISI/SAE 1055(though this wouldn't be the first time I've been proven wrong).  Perhaps one of our resident metallurgists/machinists/bladesmiths can set the record straight?
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Steve Grisetti
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| G. Scott H. wrote: | | Steve Grisetti wrote: | | [ Actually, I think you mean to say AISI 1055. AISI is the American Iron and Steel Institute. SAE is the Society of Automotive Engineers. |
I'm not certain of that myself. I've seen various steels listed as AISI/SAE 1055, 1095, 5160, etc., so I think both institutions use interchangable nomenclature for steel types? I am pretty sure that CK-55 is the equivalent of AISI/SAE 1055(though this wouldn't be the first time I've been proven wrong). Perhaps one of our resident metallurgists/machinists/bladesmiths can set the record straight? |
I am guessing that SAE simply adopted the AISI specs as-is and applied the same number designations.
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
- Sir Toby Belch
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Mike West
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| Posted: Sat 01 Apr, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: Great stuff. |
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I bought the falchion, the sword rapier and, the Scottish blade. The sword rapier will eventually get a Spanish style Bilbo hilt, the Scottish will become a custom S-Hilt basket hilt and, the falchon will have a different hilt set-up than the Del Tin version. Eddie Floyd will be the fellow I contact for all of that.
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Chuck Russell
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has anyone made anything with these yet? any pictures?
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Shane Allee
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I've been tinkering with my falchion blade a bit. Still have to thin out the rear part of the cup/basket and a bit more shaping after I get a pommel on it. I'm thinking that I'll cover the grip in rayskin, but beyond that I'm just coming up with it as it goes along. So nothing really historical about it.
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Steve Grisetti
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| Shane Allee wrote: | | I've been tinkering with my falchion blade a bit. Still have to thin out the rear part of the cup/basket and a bit more shaping after I get a pommel on it. I'm thinking that I'll cover the grip in rayskin, but beyond that I'm just coming up with it as it goes along. So nothing really historical about it. |
But it looks promising, so far!
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
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Bill Grandy
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Say, not too shabby, Shane! Not too shabby at all!
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Mike West
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| Posted: Sun 02 Apr, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: Wow! |
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Very nice, Mr. Allee! I guess you made the hilt material? I wish I had a workshop to play around in. I don't even have a basement, alas.
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Shane Allee
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Thanks guys,
So far I've made all of the hilt, but I'm having Mark make me a pommel for it. He already had stock in hand to make it from and a much better way of removing larger amounts of material. I have to say that this is different than what I'm used to doing, so it is interesting on how you have to work each piece to get it come together. Not at all a linear progression I guess you could say.
Still considering some kind of pierce work for the cup, but I haven't come up with any ideas that I liked yet.
Shane
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Bill Duncan
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Very nice Hoss.
I am thinking along the lines the Wakefield sword.
We should all post pics of our blade when we get done and show off
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Bill Love
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| Posted: Sun 09 Apr, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: Del Tin blades from Atlanta Cutlery |
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I've just finished hilting up one of the hand and a half blades. The grip is a reshaped donation from a Valiant Armory Black Prince (mediocre sword, very nice ebony wood) and the cross & pommel are from a Hanwei Practical Hand and a Half (don't ask how I got it apart without breaking anything). Slick, solid and beautiful to boot! 
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Bill Duncan
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Wow that looks grand!
Good work hoss.
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