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W. Schütz
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 Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: Anyone know this rondel dagger? |
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The best looking rondel dagger i have ever seen, but i want to find a better pic of it or of the original, anyone sitting on any info..?
The pic;
http://bjorn.foxtail.nu/images/wh15c.jpg
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I'd take that hammer anyday! 
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
This site would be better if everytime I clicked submit... I got to hear a whip crack!
My collection: Various Blades & Conan related
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Alex Oster wrote: | | Wow, I'd take that hammer anyday! :) |
Hehe yes i know the hammer is in focus in that pic, but please people - revert your eyes to the dagger at hand!
They are both made by Peter Johnsson so thats why they are insanely pretty.
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Alex Oster
Location: Washington and Yokohama Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| W. Stilleborn wrote: | | They are both made by Peter Johnsson |
That explains it. 
Try emailing him then?
The pen is mightier than the sword, especially since it can get past security and be stabbed it into a jugular.
This site would be better if everytime I clicked submit... I got to hear a whip crack!
My collection: Various Blades & Conan related
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| Alex Oster wrote: | | W. Stilleborn wrote: | | They are both made by Peter Johnsson |
That explains it. :p
Try emailing him then? |
Yea i sent a PM to him a while back, but no reply. Ill look for a real email adress.
But i would still appreciate if someone posted some nice info about it, since Peter J is a busy man i reckon..
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Tue 21 Mar, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I got the reply from Peter J. i was looking for, great stuff as usual!
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Fabrice Cognot
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Wed 22 Mar, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, yes ofcourse. Well we where not discussing hard historical facts only so ill try to translate the gist of it:
"I made this dagger 9-10 years ago. Its a quite exact copy of one at the Stockholm Historical Museum. The original is from around 1500. Nice and unplesant things these! Most of the originals are quite slim/nimble in its dimensions. Feels like a civilian daggers for welthy middle/upper class".
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Peter Johnsson
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| Posted: Wed 22 Mar, 2006 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Tanks for positive comments!
The dagger Wilhelm headed this thread with was made some 9-10 years ago.
I like these small all steel daggers.
They seem to have been popular during the 15th c and early 16th c.
Some years after I made the one Wiliam commented on, I got an opportunity to document a nice and rather well preserved on at the Historical Museum in Stockholm.
I decided to make a detailed study of this one and made a copy. This is one of the few blades I´ve made that is still with me.
As there has bees some interest in daggers lately. I thought there might be an interest in seeing photos of an oiginal and a completed copy.
In this project I wanted to get not just the dimensions and shapes, but also the same surface finish I think the original had: polished but with some fine filemarks showing.
detail photos of original and copy:
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The guard is a three-lobed ballock derivate shape. Blade is three edged.
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Note filework on grip and guard. The seam of the grip was never soldered, just forged close.
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Overall a rather slim little dagger. The grip fits snugly in your hand. Tightness between pommel disc and guard helps provide a goood grip despite the narrowness of the grip.
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The guard was fileworked with rope and shell shape decorations. This puts the dagger right at the beginning of the 16th C, just within a few years of the new century.
The pommel disc is hollow, made of two pieces of plate; the flat upper part folded over
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Kel Rekuta
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Peter,
Your work is an inspiration. 
Thanks for the images. With your permission, I'd like to make prints to show the next student who asks "How can we put our hands on a blade without getting cut?" 
Cheers!
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W. Schütz
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| Posted: Fri 24 Mar, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for a great reply. The past is aliiiiiiive!
Gentes scitote,
vicine sive remote,
quod claret Suecia
plebeque militia.
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Brian M
Location: Austin, TX Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Now that is a very ornate icepick!
Brian M
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Fabrice Cognot
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Russ Ellis
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| Posted: Mon 27 Mar, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for providing the pictures Peter, I've REALLY got to pick up one of these rondels...
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Joshua Reptsik
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Good God that thing pretty!
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This is a standard topic
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