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Danny Grigg
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| Alexi Goranov wrote: | | Thomas Jason wrote: | | Misericorde... |
Isn't that a common name for most daggers used to dispatch dying folks (to safe them the misery)? Rondel daggers were referred to as "misericordes" on occasion, and I'd assume the same is true for bullock-daggers, ear-daggers, baselards, sword-hilted daggers, etc.
I'd want to see more examples for all of the above 
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From The Complete Encyclopedia of Arms and Weapons Edited by Leonid Tarassuk & Claude Blair
"A term for daggers found in French and English texts of the 14th and 15th centuries; it probably referred to the daggers carried in combat by knights. It subsequently became a romantic term for a dagger with a thin, pointed blade designed to penetrate mail or the joints between plates of armour. It was thought that a victim knocked to the ground or wounded pleaded for misericordia ("mercy") from the warrior closing in to finish him off; hence the modern name of this dagger."
This doesn't sound like its describing the daggers you mentioned above.
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Thomas Jason
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Nope, I was under the impression that it wasn't a ballock or a rondel.
Rather that a misericord was a precursor to the stiletto.
I also understood it as being a woman's dagger used to dispatch the grievously wounded when tending to the wounded on a battlefield.
In both cases they were usually long and thin.
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Chad Arnow
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| Thomas Jason wrote: | Nope, I was under the impression that it wasn't a ballock or a rondel.
Rather that a misericord was a precursor to the stiletto.
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If you look at the Blair/Tarassuk definition, then a misericorde could originally have been anything, including ballocks, rondels, quillon daggers, ear daggers, etc.:
| Quote: | | A term for daggers found in French and English texts of the 14th and 15th centuries; it probably referred to the daggers carried in combat by knights. |
It was only later usage that narrowed the definition.
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Fabrice Cognot
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Fabrice Cognot
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John Gage
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| Fabrice Cognot wrote: | Hi John
What price range do you aim for (just out of curiosity) ?
As for Ballock daggers, I started making some myself. See here :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fcognot/temp/DSCF3817red.jpg
1075, mild steel and cherry tree.
Will make sandwich roundel daggers too (I have made a few before, can't find a pic sorry)
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Hello Fabrice,
Nice dagger. My custom quotes are based on the complexity of the piece.
Regards,
John
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Alexi Goranov
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| Thomas Jason wrote: | Nope, I was under the impression that it wasn't a ballock or a rondel.
Rather that a misericord was a precursor to the stiletto.
I also understood it as being a woman's dagger used to dispatch the grievously wounded when tending to the wounded on a battlefield.
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Interesting you point that out, as many of the the 15th century rondels have thin triangular blades that some argue were precursors to the stiletto
Cheers,
Alexi
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Gary Grzybek
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Hi John,
Any type of Rondell, sword hilted or Parrying Dagger would be appreciated. 
Gary Grzybek
ARMA Northern N.J.
www.armastudy.org
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Michael Jankowsky
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Hi Guys,
one of my first historical inspiration, sorry
but this ear dagger is not so perfect. I've never seen a real ear dagger before.
the next dagger in perfekt fit comes next (May 2006)
sorry my english language is not perfect.
mic
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Folkert van Wijk
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This is a standard topic