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Merv Cannon




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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Bitte, was ist ...." Peitschenkolben " ?         Reply with quote

I need help with this please as my German is not that good....

" Peitschenkolben " is listed in the [/i][/b]weapons section of this site.....

http://www.reenactment.de/bilder_bewaffnung.html

I think they might have to do with hanging off the end of Rus Seax or sword hilts ?
These are also the guys with the Viking-Rus maces. They also have some fantastic photos in the gallery.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you !



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Johan S. Moen




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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

"Peitsche" translates as "whip", "kolben" translates as "flask" or "butt"(on a gun). So my guess would be that it is the end of a whip or a flail of sorts.

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Wolfgang Armbruster





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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is correct. A Kolben is also something used in car-engines. But the correct translation ins this case is definitely mace.
The German term for mace is Streitkolben.
So Peitschenkolben could be translated as "whip-mace".

It can be confusing sometimes since different weapons have different names in different cultures *g*

Hope I could help.
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Johan S. Moen




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PostPosted: Wed 01 Mar, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wolfgang Armbruster wrote:
That is correct. A Kolben is also something used in car-engines.


That would be a piston I believe.

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Alexander Hinman




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PostPosted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah! I recognise these. I mentioned them in an earlier thread on maces. Basically, according to the archaeological excavation I've seen them in, they were used as a street-fighting weapon. The leather thongs were wrapped around the hand for easy concealment, since they didn't have a wooden handle (at least the ones shown didn't). Made of bone or, in at least one case, bronze-coated lead fixed on an iron pin. Very, very cool weapons.

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Merv Cannon




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PostPosted: Sat 04 Mar, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Peitschenkolben         Reply with quote

Alexander..........Very cool.......very observant ! Thanks.
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