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Bruno Giordan
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 Posted: Tue 31 Jan, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: An unusal armet from the museo Marzoli in Brescia |
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Unusual shape of the ocularium.
The helmet looks a bit abused, perhaps it underwent some repairs and modifications, due to the presence of rivets (just my opinion).
Photocredit Jac Depczyck www.eyeball.co.uk
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Bill Grandy
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Wow, that's really neat. I've never seen occulars like that... I like that design. Thanks for sharing that.
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Dominic Dellavalle
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Definately an interesting armet. Looks like with the angle of the oculars vision would be really limited, but just my guess. At some point it must have also had an aventail attached based on the numerous punched holes around the base.
Thanks for the pic.
~Dominic
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Bill Grandy
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| Dominic Dellavalle wrote: | | Looks like with the angle of the oculars vision would be really limited, but just my guess. |
Probably a little, but I suspect not too much, do to the fact that it widens a little at the far end. Couldn't say for certain without wearing it, of course. This looks like it was an artful way to give a little more protection against a stray thrust without taking away too much vision.
| Quote: | | At some point it must have also had an aventail attached based on the numerous punched holes around the base. |
I believe those are where the liner was sewn on. The aventail was common much earlier on than this helmet.
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-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Wolfgang Armbruster
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| Posted: Tue 31 Jan, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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The upper front plate seems to be a later modification/repair as already stated. Maybe a part of the skull-plate got smashed in a fight and they didn't want to throw the helmet away, so they opted for a repair.
A really interesting feature on many armets is this little "plate on a stick" thingy for protection against blows to the neck.
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Bruno Giordan
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | | Dominic Dellavalle wrote: | | Looks like with the angle of the oculars vision would be really limited, but just my guess. |
Probably a little, but I suspect not too much, do to the fact that it widens a little at the far end. Couldn't say for certain without wearing it, of course. This looks like it was an artful way to give a little more protection against a stray thrust without taking away too much vision.
| Quote: | | At some point it must have also had an aventail attached based on the numerous punched holes around the base. |
I believe those are where the liner was sewn on. The aventail was common much earlier on than this helmet. |
It is an effect of the pic, I spent recently one quarter of an hour in front of it, I swear I will bring some more pics: this one is taken from a side, and it was taken when the helmet was in another display stand.
Now perhaps the visor is better placed, since when I observed it last week I could notice that ocularia are wider than they appear here.
Do not worry, the openings are better than in standard armets (as in the famed Gonzagas' ones today in Mantova Diocesan Museum).
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This is a standard topic