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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 12:50 am    Post subject: Bunches of Basket-Hilts         Reply with quote

Do I like Scottish-style Basket-hilts?


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I think I do..... (a less cluttered picture here)


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The best of the best, by Vince Evans....


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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm not normally a big fan of the Scottish basket hilts, but those Vince Evans ones are nice enough to make a convert out of me. Now I have a new kind of sword I need an example of, and it is all your fault! So many swords to collect... so little time.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Worried

This is my opinion, nothing more.

It makes me very unhappy to see a group of fine swords, and Mr. Wilson, it is a fine collection to be sure, to be displayed this way.
Especially swords of the stature as the Evans' baskethilts.

Crossed, blade on blade. Steel on steel. Not in my mind a proper way to treat a fine sword, but a great way to start the deterioration of time off on a great footing.

Not to mention that many folks believe crossing sword blades is very bad luck indeed, and that is some good ole Scottish folklore to boot.

Scuffs and marks from handling and use, I guess that's one thing, and in that context I'm rather pragmatic myself as far as my own weaponry goes. But if someone intentionally layed one of my pieces on top of the other in my home, they'd be thrown out and not welcomed back.

Now, I'm sorry, especially to Mr. Wilson, if this sounds like a personal attack, it is not, perhaps it's simply a matter of not giving the subject much thought beforehand...if I had a collection like yours, I'd be excited too, to be sure, to share it.

But please don't stack em up like that, for my own part as a bladesmith, it's positively heartbreaking to see. The scars recieved to the blades from that have no honor, or history.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

David Wilson wrote:
The best of the best, by Vince Evans....


Kool Beans Dave. I've got some plywood saved just for those teastrainers. Comin' up in a few weeks?

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 7:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Randal Graham wrote:
Worried

This is my opinion, nothing more.

It makes me very unhappy to see a group of fine swords, and Mr. Wilson, it is a fine collection to be sure, to be displayed this way.
Especially swords of the stature as the Evans' baskethilts.

Crossed, blade on blade. Steel on steel. Not in my mind a proper way to treat a fine sword, but a great way to start the deterioration of time off on a great footing.

Not to mention that many folks believe crossing sword blades is very bad luck indeed, and that is some good ole Scottish folklore to boot.

Scuffs and marks from handling and use, I guess that's one thing, and in that context I'm rather pragmatic myself as far as my own weaponry goes. But if someone intentionally layed one of my pieces on top of the other in my home, they'd be thrown out and not welcomed back.

Now, I'm sorry, especially to Mr. Wilson, if this sounds like a personal attack, it is not, perhaps it's simply a matter of not giving the subject much thought beforehand...if I had a collection like yours, I'd be excited too, to be sure, to share it.

But please don't stack em up like that, for my own part as a bladesmith, it's positively heartbreaking to see. The scars recieved to the blades from that have no honor, or history.

Respectfully;
Randal Graham


Its ok Randal, really.

Dave is the fussiest guy you'll ever meet when it comes to his babies. I remember the first time he came to the shop, and did some cutting with us. I thought he was going to have a heart attack when I cleaned off the wood residue off the blade, and there was a couple of scratches underneath..... I had to clean them off before he and Alex left, because he wasn't lookin' so good.

He still comes up, but he won't cut plywood with his swords, nor cardboard tube. He'll cut the stuff with mine, but not his.....*g*. Consequently, I tease him all the time about the plywood I have saved for his Vince Evans pieces.....

I can see Dave fussin' over that first photo, setting stuff up so carefully, it likely took him two hours to get there. Dave scratch his babies up? You gotta be kiddin'.....

Now, maybe we should caveat this "Don't try this at home". But Dave's kool, really....... He was alive to take the photos, so he obviously didn't scratch them. His puir heart wouldn't have been able to take it.......

After all, he's one of those Skirt Wearin' Scots, and you know how fussy about their kits, they are.......

Its ok, really..........

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Personally I luv stacking my Evans pieces ( very carefully I might add) for a good photo shoot !
Hell , Dave used a soft bed ...... I go all out and stack 'em on my deck *g* .....
Occasionally I get crazy and actually cut with them ( lighter targets so as to keep the blades pretty )

I've been know to get really sacrilegious and stick my swords in the ground (but not my Evans pieces of course;-)

As far as the superstition of crossing them .... right or wrong , I guess I'm not superstitious !
But I certainly would not take any liberties with an other persons swords without permission .

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 8:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I really like that first pic, Mac. Excellent photo there of the pieces by Vince Evans.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 8:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
I really like that first pic, Mac. Excellent photo there of the pieces by Vince Evans.


Thanks Nathan

It was funny .... Vince commented to me , back when I fist posted that pic, that I'd forgotten to include the sgain achlais he'd made me *g* ( the man has a good eye , and a good memory ;-)


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Oh, almost forgot ...... Nice pictures Dave !

Nuttin like a good pile of claymores to brighten up Mac's day ;-)

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

These pics always remind me of what an above-average collection your building Mac. Great stuff!

And Dave, they're your babies, lay'em on the bed any way you want to Razz

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 9:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, whatever, I guess they're all your guys's swords.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well, maybe not THAT fussy, Gus.... Razz

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Jan, 2004 1:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mac,

Didn't you used to have a S-hilt by Vince Evans?
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Mac,
Didn't you used to have a S-hilt by Vince Evans?


Hi Stephen

No, I just globbed on to Vince's personal sword, & Dave Wilson's *g* , so you probably remember me posting pic's of those !

But I do need one, dont I ;-) Mac

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Mac,
Didn't you used to have a S-hilt by Vince Evans?


Hi Stephen

No, I just globbed on to Vince's personal sword, & Dave Wilson's *g* , so you probably remember me posting pic's of those !

But I do need one, dont I ;-) Mac


You need to get one one made. Like this one here. Happy



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Aye Stephen me lad ..... but do ya suppose those "S" 's really stands for Stephen !

;-) *g* Mac



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"S"tephen Idea Laughing Out Loud Maybe I should get one.


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Patrick Kelly wrote:
These pics always remind me of what an above-average collection your building Mac. Great stuff!


Hi Patrick

Thanks .... I sometimes do have to "Pinch" myself so I know I'm not dreaming that their all mine ;-) Mac


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