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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Petersens catagory         Reply with quote

http://www.vikingsword.com/petersen/

found this lil site on the web.

is there a book out there much like oakeshotts that gives all of the type petersen catargoized?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vmframe.html nice little virtual tour
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Bob Burns




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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I surely do not know Chuck, but thank you so much for the websites, I bookmarked both of them, looks to be a lot for me to learn from both of them. Thank you very much!

Bob
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Dec, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jap Petersens typology is published in his original work:
"De Norske Vikingesverd" printed in 1919
As far as I know there has been no reprint of this work, nor has it been translated to English.

It covers axes, spear heads, swords and "ringers", outlining development and contemporarity. A solid good work, even if his classification at times is a bit limiting when applied to the whole international material of viking swords as it is written from a strickly Norwegian perspective.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Petersen only classifies hilts, not blades; This because a large portion of the swords found have missing or damaged blades...
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Chuck Russell




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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 5:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

hey thanks guys, good to know. i was just wondering since i hear so much about the guy. thought i'd like to have a reference book myself.

sigh, 1919 eh? and norwegian. ug.
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Russ Ellis
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: Petersens catagory         Reply with quote

Chuck Russell wrote:
http://www.vikingsword.com/petersen/

found this lil site on the web.

is there a book out there much like oakeshotts that gives all of the type petersen catargoized?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vmframe.html nice little virtual tour


Isn't it Petersen's typology that is shown in Pierce's book Swords of the Viking Age? I can't remember right off hand (man I need to go look at that book again) but I think it is. Someone with the book to hand confirm or correct if you would... As mentioned this book covers only hilt types not the spears and axes and so forth afther all it is called Swords of the Viking Age... Happy

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Robert Zamoida




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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes, Petersen's Typology is explained in Swords of the Viking Age, along with Oakeshot's Typology of the Viking Swords. There's also some examples of Petersen's Typologies not only of the sword but also of the axe and spear in the Osprey book Viking Hersir.
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Thomas Jason




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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Let's also not forget that our good friends of Albion have some amazing online resources for Viking Sword Typologies

Geibig: http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/geibig.htm

Wheeler: http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/wheeler.htm
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Jonathon Janusz





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PostPosted: Tue 20 Dec, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Check out this thread for a link to a downloadable pdf of this work (not translated, but still phenomenal):

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=5544
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